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Posted by Arjay, Friday, 7 May 2010 10:42:10 PM
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Not exactly, Arjay.
>>Pericles.Silverstein like many others had inside knowledge.<< Of what? You need to be able to show it was an inside job before that theory will fly. And neither you nor anyone else has come close to doing that. All you have is innuendo and smear. No motive. No means. No opportunity. >>If you know of an impending crime and profit by it by non disclosure, then you are guilty of aiding and abetting a criminal act.<< So why would he take such a stupid risk of landing himself in jail in disgrace for the rest of his life? It's not as if he was short of a quid. Doesn't add up. Doesn't come anywhere close to adding up. Posted by Pericles, Saturday, 8 May 2010 1:19:19 AM
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$ 5 billion is a lot of incentive for things not to add up in our minds.Power hungry people get off on the thrill of the chase.It is an addiction just like the movie star seeking more fame.Just like Hitler wanting to control Europe and perhaps the world.
We have all the ingredents for another global conflict.If more countries like Greece falter,Govts will elect for war as a solution to domestic woes.It has happened time and time again throughout history.I don't see any special differences in this so called modern illuminated society.In fact we are less wise that the generations of the last two world wars. Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 8 May 2010 8:19:38 AM
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Pericles wrote, "All you have is innuendo and smear. No motive. No means. No opportunity."
A perusal of two other debates with which Pericles has unfortunately graced his presence will show that no matter how many times you provide evidence that figures within the Bush administration had the motive, the means and the opportunity to launch 9/11, he will simply repeat the above statement as if you had never had. Those debates are: "Australia, Afghanistan and three unanswered questions" at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10034&page=41 "JFK.E Howard Hunt Ex CIA, Accuses LBJ" at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=3330&page=44 Another way Pericles is fond of implicitly stating this same lie is: "Perhaps if you were able to provide even the slightest hint of credibility in your storytelling, I might think yes, daggett has opened my eyes, this is worth taking another look at." ("Australia, Afghanistan and three unanswered questions" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10034&page=34 #168886 23 April 2010 10:50:57 AM) In fact since Arjay and I first raised these questions on OLO we have indeed provided over and over and over "the slightest hint of credibility in [our] storytelling" and a good deal more besides. The articles cited above by 9/11 whistleblower Kevin Ryan show in great detail the means and the opportunity that conspirators within the US state and closely allied corporations would have had to plant explosives in the World Trade Center towers, yet Pericles has ignored those articles and still continues to repeat the same lies cited above. This is further confirmation that Pericles is not here to discover the truth (the essence of which he no doubt understood a long time ago) but to prevent others from learning the truth. --- A most instructive fact in this whole discussion is the complete lack of credible evidence by those who uphold the Official 9/11 conspiracy. Please note how when I challenged 9/11 'debunkers' to provide that evidence, I was faced with either deafening silence or Pericles' brazen refusal to provide any evidence: "Not this time, daggett" ... as if he ever had provided any evidence -- See "Why do we fight?" at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10348&page=4 Posted by daggett, Sunday, 9 May 2010 8:43:17 AM
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As for the issue raised by Arjay, "Does Israel Control the USA?" I wouldn't deny that knowing the answer to this question one way or the other is very important, but, at this point in time it is not absolutely critical to knowing that 9/11 was perpetrated by elements within the Bush administration, so I have decided, for now, not to devote as much of my attention to this as I eventually should.
Posted by daggett, Sunday, 9 May 2010 8:44:22 AM
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My apologies that I omitted the word 'theory' at the end of the first sentence of the third last paragraph in my second most recent post. The sentence should have been:
"A most instructive fact in this whole discussion is that there is a complete of credible evidence by those who uphold the Official 9/11 conspiracy theory." --- An invasion of Iran, by the US, NATO and Israel, perhaps triggered by a false flag terrorist attack blamed on Iran, could well extend to involve Russia and China. It could be the start of Word War 3. The cost, in lives, disabling injuries, material destruction and money would be horrific. Some useful resources about this question and whether Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons program (the other likely pretext for war) is "An Act Of War" at http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25302.htm http://candobetter.org/node/1977, which is Republican Congressman Ron Paul's speech against sanctions against Iran. CIA whistleblower Ray McGovern's YouTube speech "Beneath the hype: Is Iran close to nukes?" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DxyA4LT7MA also sheds a lot of light on what is going on. It reveals how decent honest Intelligence professionals, who have refused to tell the Bush Administration the lies it needed to hear about Iran's supposed nuclear program, prevented an invasion in 2007. If, instead they had told them lies, such as those that others fed to the Bush Blair and Howard in 2002 and 2003 about supposed Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, then there would have been an invasion. The other factor preventing war is the world-wide 9/11 Truth Movement whom the would-be conspirators know will be capable of revealing, to many, the truth of the further false flag terrorist outrages they are, no doubt, planning. Unfortunately, it was not them, rather a handful of quick thinking passengers aboard Flight 253 on Christmas Day 2009, who prevented 290 passengers and crew aboard that flight from being blown up in mid air. Who knows what would have happened if that had succeeded and our headlines were full of the horror of that attack, had it succeeded? (tobecontinued) Posted by daggett, Sunday, 9 May 2010 12:16:25 PM
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The GFC is in the second stage of decay with Greece folding.They have sacrificed the real economy for financial aggragates and so unemployment and small business will continue to falter.The IMF is continuing to counterfeit more money to delay the inevitable.History does repeat itself.