False advertising, false statements, false promises, these are against the law for businesses ... why not for politicians? Why should they have a right to deceive people into voting for them? Look at all the promises Rudd made, and Howard before him, and Keating before him, and Hawke before him .... billions of dollars worth of lies. Yet all of these politicians have their snouts in the trough, retire on big pensions. What is the best way to ordinary people can get compensation from politicians personally for this?

'What is the best way to ordinary people can get compensation from politicians personally for this?'

Everyone over 18 gets to vote. How about running yourself? All men and women of all parties have a corruptible nature. Unfortunately many are to self righteous in their own eyes to realize. Jo Bjelke seemed like an angel compared with this lot. The problem is they are to blind to see it.

One way we could clean things up a little is to break all ties with the corrupt UN which would stop some of our current crop of pollies embracing abhorrent policies in order to appease one very corrupt organisation. If we could choose people who want to serve Australia instead of ruling it we would be a lot better off.

Dear runner,

Pray tell me why the UN is to be regarded as more corrupt than Australia and how on earth can you think Jo Bjelke was even worthy to shine this lots shoes as bad as they are? Or are you being facetious?

To quote one of the biggest tellers of untruth Joe like that is a laugh.
The first two posts offer me this advice, some people think that only those who think as they do are right.
Such people never truly understand most things.
A charge could be leveled at any person that what they say is untrue.
But our threads author has given us evidence in his post that his very much making false statements.

Peter van Onselen had a very good piece on Rudd in the Australian this morning, comparing Rudd's weakness and indecision, as well as the massive failures of public administration such as the BER, the "stimulus", the insulation debacle, the ETS farce, even the unfair dismissal backdown to Whitlam's preiod in Government.

Rudd and his bunch of Grimacing Grrrls simply lack sufficient balls between them to manage anything much more complex than a photo shoot, let alone to call a double dissolution election at the failure of the Senate to pass his flagship policy. Rudd is there to be there; power without glory...

Rudd:

The Howard you have when you are not having a Howard.

Quelle surprise!

Ho yes! that word corruption. Once said in right direction, the sounds of silence creeps over the land.

Funny that.

TTM

csteele

r u serious? Do we want to start with UN soldiers raping kids in Congo or billions in oil kickbacks, or do we want to talk about their brave decision to include Iran on Committees to help with women's rights. What about the recent grab for money at CopenHagen despite misusing and lining the pockets of corrupt UN officials on a consistent basis. Only those totally blinded by dogma could surely support the UN.

The only support Joh and his cronies wanted was cash delivered to his office anonymously in little brown paper bags but Runner suggest this was not corrupt behaviour but the entire UN somehow is?

Being blinded by dogma indeed.

Corrupt pollies aren't half as much of a problem than is the combination corrupt/incompetent judiciary.

do poliTRICKians lie
do dogs have fleas
of course they use smoke and mirrors

like their excuse to avoid a tax on the yuppies and their wine
the excuse was a wine glut...lol

we had a toobaco glut till the overnight tax on it saw huge bulk bying..people bying up weeks worth of the stuff..

how to clear a whine glut..simply announce a new tax starting next mounth..[to allow the few liquer franchises to get their orders in]..

because unlike toobaco...sales..that underpin every small shop/servo and corner store..booze is only sold by a few...except in melbourne apparently..where there is a glut of those..'suffering'..in this wine glut

no doudt the nonsmoker krudd...likes his tipple...and lets face it a gift of a case of wine..well politrickians...just love their free lunch tipple..and after all ..they paid for the glut..with the generouse investement subsidies..

[its part of the reason for their free cases of wine...and the big reason...following the water..'buy back'..for our debt..

then there is the reshuffle on the miners deception..yes reshuffle..not a new tax..

if you read between the lines...and all that got any whine from smokers..[or the many small business..going to go bust..from loosing its income stream]...

then there is the double dip recession..and the deception that state debt..isnt national/sovereign..debt[repayable by new taxes...

then there is the asset sales...where great swathes of land has been sold to a forrestry shelf company...that will harvest the trees..then sell loff their new land...to the new imagrants

we should never have allowed the bar-stewards..
to pass a law making their lie's legitimate govt process

but the media..got educated at the same private schools..as the lawyers become politition...as the lawyers claiming to be doing pub-lick sir-vice..and the paid to blog bloggers..pretending to be human

wish i could get drunk..and still pay my taxes
but i will smoke...and pay for yours..too

A politician can always plead that circumstances have changed since she or he made the promises. Sometimes this is true so it would be extremely difficult to hold a politician to account.

However, many of the supporters of a politicians really don't care whether the politician is incorruptible, truthful or even fairly honest. They support the politician if they identify with the politician.

Fitzgerald exposed the corruption under Jo. That really doesn't seem to matter to runner. All that seems to matter to runner, this is my assumption, is that Jo held to the same kind of superstitious beliefs that runner has and must therefore be acceptable. Unfortunately runner is not alone in this sort of behaviour.

Uog! You really believe all in what you say? I have know doubt in that my friend. But it is 19th thinking, and new thought that is on its way.

If only I could help myself.

"Politicians' false statements." Well, if you can do a better job, I,d love to here it.

TTM

HARD TO KNOW WHAT YOUR TRYING TO SAY TTM..
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so please be more clear
think then move.

These are my interpretations from your own book! Your god did teach us all with?

TTM.

i doudt you ever read the book

anyhow im paST debaiting about little things..your posts reveal..your bias/purpose/reason...you comment plenty on smokers tax...ewant to know why the new tax..to bauil out the world bank's bailout of the eu

p/e/w..it all stinks

i think we are all mature enough to get simple truths
lets face the SS/pin
cut through the ccc-rap

inflation comes about when the fed reserve banks..issue too much credit..[inflate the money supply]..

and the truth about grease/up greece..is that goldmansax got derivitives..onsold them..thus the same mob..doing the same scam

..and this fraud now is compounded by the BAIL/out..[of the bankers/..phase two..60 billion de-fault will become 120 billion default..

but this time its the germains/tax payers...
and greecian tax payers..
on the hook..to bail out banker excess yet again

krudd..must know...he needs us on the hook too[we are giving the world bank the funds..funds we can never get back..so were on the hook as well..well done un/bankers/goldman sax/world bank...goldman sax...and the pub-lick ser-vice..lawyers and aCCOUNTANTS...WE UNDER WRITE THE UNDERWRITERS YET AGAIN

we lost most of our supper last time..employers didnt pay for it..[the reduced wage increase we forfeited did...just like this time...same same...same old criminals stealing from the same ol mugs]...us and them others of us..[the sheeple...who swallow..SSpin]

let them eat cccc-rap...its all smoke and mirrors...sspin..the ursurors allways win

runner..what can we do...declare odious debt...their acts are treasonous..criminal..and beyond the autherisation of the constitution..and common decency

another topic asked what to do about it...

well state mines..its own minerals...[get the 60 billion..FOR ITS PEOPLE/direct.....funnily THAT 60 BILLION..IS the same ammount as the current ODIOUS DEBT..[for qld]

instead of the public servants/and two party machine men..ie the elites mates..getting the lucre..the people do...

its as easy as that..nationalise the resources...[even the forrests gifted away under the colluded deal]..to the x party machine men..enough of their odious debt's..

the tax payers have become beasts of burdon..[unrepresented swill]..we saw overtnight the smokers burdend with a new 6 billion tax burden...

then the next day the reactions of the elites...avoiding a 9 billion tax...to give an egsample..smokers get abuse/insult..and the mining elete get..[in just one recent egsample...60 billion of resources..for 800 million in royalties..to the qld govt

a nice lurk if your suing the premier..thats the game...and the input?..the organiser organised a twenty billion loan..then sits back and reaps in the pennies/gold/silver coal[or in this/quoted case..the gas]

govt of course provides the ports/rail/infastructure..normally..though in this case it apears some money will be given to build a new railway...either way...the state bears the burden..

that is to say the mugs/../the mug smokers..earn as you go wage earners...who when they finally get ahhead...get inflation..that chews away their nest egg..

its a lovely game they play with the peoples assets..that builds their fiefdoms..then as usual..let the serfs pay...

and their generouse supper for treason most vile

Runner/OUG. If the world is to be as one, why is religion such a pest? Is the sand box not big enough? The god( of your choice.......... does say, all is welcome. Or do you have a different view?

Me the N.

TTM

i know i shouldnt respond to your biased/off topic troll..but NO ONE SAYS..the world will be as one,it says as per rev22;11..he that is unust/let him be unjust still;and he that is filthy...etc..

please note22/12..the reward is with me...ie[satan..the lord of these realms]..to give to every-man...according as his works shall be..

noting the goldmansax-created..greece/pig..debt now revealed to stand at 400BILLION..and krudd's numbers being blamed on the minni9ng tax..deleting the smokers tax..[mainly on the blue collar/labourites/voters..lol

while krudd gifts 20 billion to the imf..to bail out the pigs/or rather..those who foolishly gave cash to them...ie THE BANKERS..next pig out/bailout

for those wondering how krudd would pay for it..well the smokers of course..such a clever person..not a cent of the new-tax goes to govt..it goes to the fed/reserve/goldmen sax banking cartel..writing their clever defaults..underwritten..by tax payers..yet the pretend underwriters[our pension funds]..get a tax boosted..income increase

the private bankers..the gold/man sax controlled cartel...is hiding under a veneer..that implies govt franchhise..yet is owned controlled/looted..by the banking cartel globalists..getting bailed out..in the grease-up...

supposedly to be paid/for..by taxes on..lol..poor people..or those..>now with credit cards<..YET..soon>.to be poor...[you mugs cant get..it..you too will go broke out of all this

..no tax..goes to govt..it all goes..direct to the bankers/fed..
though the ignorant..will debate it with their opinion

its funny..how the k[iddy;lover]rudd..didnt put a tax on lollies..ie the obesity epidemic...or the booze hounds..nor tax..the yuppies wine..but then who wants mobs of angry drunks../on the street..

or for krudd to loose..his photo-ops with kids..in schools..
thus the overnight tax..on smokers....lol..no revieuw..here
just krudds/gold-men/sax..vieuw...or rather the way of the public/ser-vice/former..gold/men/sax..running the two party machine's..GLOBALLY

the two-party joke..see the fruit..and know its fruit is most foul..have the guts to make drunks pay their way...or as in this case pay the extra krudd/gifting the the medical industry..

yet smokers allready been told..they wont get any medical/aid..cause their TROUBLE.is SELF INFLICTED..YET they ARE EXPECTED TO/bailout..krud#s promises..immediatly

..the constitution dosnt allow any tax/

recall the salt tax/..
ghandi was a lawyer/...he knew.. it..[ALL TAX],
,any tax..is unconstitutional

autoptcy..death..'cause'..is whatever the doc writes down..
if the possable death cause is...'smoking/..RELATED..
then it goes to the deaths..'ATTRIBUTABLE'..to smoking

kids dont care about the price of cigs..
it all goes unthinkingly onto the credit card..they only make minimum pazyments on..

how much percent is minimum payment?..they are ..'buying their fags/booze/cars..for pennies on the dollar!...just vlike your cars and homes will be sold for soon...

these destractions remind me k/rudd..is doing this to destract away from other issues..he also cant..constitutionally do...

both parties have the same adenda...
advised by the same bloated/pensioned elite.
.and their former goldman/enron..banker/lawyer mates

.recall the carbon tax..
[unconstuitutional/too]..yet is was the same as howhards..

see the same bloated public service boys club..runs the two party system..via the sports rorts clubs/getting huge multilevel/govt grants..and media getting free franchise

get into murdoc running the sports club..as well as the spin/..media machinations..taking over all media...consolidating it..via clever bankers..giving him favourable credit...he dont own much..but owes plenty

there is the rub..half our news is sport..and 3/4 quatrters of news is dis-info/and info-taint-meant..bought to you by the conrasd blacks of the globe..selling us mind control/spin...and little fact

the other media gives straight out lie..or destraction...deliberated deception..or biased..to serving the elite..ie look at the miners/tax...all for more money..or rather credit...lol

or more what others percieve as mopre power..[but they owe more than they own...lol..talk about delusions//..all round

or just more self regulation...ultimate power corrupots absolutly!

indeed it is those who THINK to have supreem powers..that are the most corrupted...are only the most indebited/to the lord of these realms

and blinded..by others they percieve to have power...
or the means..[paper..percieved as value...lol..to subvert more the powerless..

yet in the end/powerr..realises they too are powerrless..
the mugs sold out to a deception...

wrought by the clever deciever...put their mark..[sig-nature]..of/the beasts..on to a con-tract..

got credit..via the mark
but now must pay the piper..

mark my words...ha ha ha

OUG. You know, I tried so hard in a post with Oliver to talk as incoherent as you do, and I think I have finialy have got it down pat. Smile. See the funny thing about the human race is, you can talk all you like to them, but you cant make them listen.

Greed and evil, no god can remove it from the animal. The world will always have these things in it no-matter what you do, but monitoring your own way in life is the only god you need.

And this should go for pollies as well, but who ever trusts.

TTM

im sure noone noticed electicty..went up 25 percent...for infastructure...lol..what infastructure?

building a gas pipeline for santos...who are doing quite nicely thankyou,,from the antonette/blight..off of the largess given by ever willing tax payers..not getting cheaper prices

http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2010/s2894275.htm

quote
PIP COURTNEY: Amazingly the next phase will dwarf what's gone before. Until now the energy companies have focused on selling gas and gas fired electricity domestically. Now they're looking at exports.

NICK DAVIES: We've got about 500 years of reserves to production ratio here. In other words there's too much gas for the Queensland market.

VOICEOVER FROM CORPORATE VIDEO: Santos's vast reserves of CSG will become the feed stock for a multibillion dollar LNG plant.

PIP COURTNEY: The plan is to pipe coal seam gas 450 kilometres to Gladstone where it will be converted into liquefied natural gas and shipped around the world.

PAUL ZEALAND: Those three or four major proponents have got projects pretty well advanced and we're one of those and each of those will have its production facility, pipelines and an LNG plant.

PIP COURTNEY: Origin will spend $35 billion.

PAUL ZEALAND: We expect to take out what we call our final investment decision which is when we agree to finally build it towards the end of this year and then we expect to be exporting liquid natural gas before the end of 2014.

ANNA BLIGH: At this moment in Beijing history is being made.

sure is anntonette/bli-te..doing great for your..[and peters mates]..oh peters maTES ARE GETTING THE FORRESTS..38.000 hectares of the stuff to a shelf company...

WHILE WE GET THE SHAFT...AND SANTOS..puts in 2 and a half mil...for roma airport/while we put in 12plus million...great mates eh