OUG,

My comments were sourced from a biology books. I can have a search of journal articles from university's databases. But, not now,. Sorry. I
running to dealines in my non-cyber life.

Are you saying that the biologists are wrong. That HIV-1 didn't evolve, it was spontanously created by God? Why would God do such a thing?

mjpb,

It was some tine ago which has challenged keyword searches. However, I have found the following BBC report and Time Magazine:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2573723.stm

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,400020,00.html

Also,

http://www.boston.com/globe/spotlight/abuse/stories3/121202_jury.htm

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2479&dat=20021215&id=B1k1AAAAIBAJ&sjid=iyUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=185,35426531

Please refer to December 6 in BBC Report. My memory of earlier claims involved the Police, not the Attorney General. Agreed, perhaps, I need to look at the matter more closely. Any pursuit by police might involve Law being in contempt of the Grand Jury, not protecting paedophiles? He does seem to have left for the Vatican to avoid questioning.

- What does the Pope do? … Promote him:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/08/international/worldspecial2/08cardinals.html?_r=1

oliver quote..<<Are you saying that the biologists are wrong.>>no im saying that they arnt saying that sopecies evolving means anything more than species evolve..as posted many times...species evolve..BUT NEVER OUT OF THEIR GENUS

..<<That HIV-1 didn't evolve,>>.of course the species evolved in its genus/hiv..but thats as far as it goes...let me know when it evolves into a bacteria...lol..it simply cant happen

<<it was spontanously created by God?>>there is theory...ON YOUR SIDE..that virus evolved..into life..its completly delusional..unsupported by evidence..and certainly has not EVER been replicated..i dont speculaTE ON THEORY...JUST FACTS..AND HOW SOME GRASP AT STRAWS TO MEET THEIR EXPECXTATIONS...NOT SUPPORTED BY SCIENCE/BY THE WAY..sorry about caploc

<<Why would God do such a thing?>>it would be speculation..but lok at it this way..god is spirit..he said let there be light...then whatever he saw in the light he played with..trying to figure out/this god/life thing..

he needs but say be and it is..

i guess to keep it simple#..my theory is god trying to know/thyself..ok im not a virus..so what am i..ok im not a bacteria...not a fish..not a goat etc..etc..

i guess one day..
you can ask him yourself
till then..know the genus barrier holds absolute..

let science make but one like it..simply speaking it hasnt...and cannnot..i was where you guys are now 20 years ago..till i studied the subject..species evolve..genus cant..

science..cant even make its own cell

cheers eh oliver

ok its gone silent again
just like with the explain evolution debate

see there are cettain seals that must be broken
the lie of evolution
the lie of ursury
the lie of written oath etc etc

it needed to be done by a fool who confounds the wise
one rejected by his own..even by his own
wearing a rainbow on his head

these impossable things have been done

but you continue to ignore that for god the impossable..is simply the way he operates..no man can be god..god is wholy spirit..sustaining all living their lives

you put so many things before god..you put these faulse godheads before god..you claim to use logic/science/need /greed ahead of the only one

there are many who claim to be his..claim to be his authority on earth..but your deluding..you put human messengers and thier mess-age..before..the only..before the unique..the natural who underpins each life..emmanuel..god within..that you do to the least you to to god

here we have holy men raping children..forgiving their own..when their betrayal of innocents should be beyond redeeming..yet god forgives them their tress-pass..but the church should not side with the unholy..decievers..who chase people awqay from the one-ness

god calus us to love..to grace..to mercy..simply to serve..his creation..HIS created...as he does..if your not serving good..you can never 'get god'....

he who leads you should serve you..just like god serves each of us our very lives..if your not being served..why do you follow?

as the quaran says..MAKE FIRST ONE LIKE IT..and simply speaking..no scientryst can/has nor will...for god is one

OUG,

"here we have holy men raping children..forgiving their own..when their betrayal of innocents should be beyond redeeming..yet god forgives them their tress-pass..but the church should not side with the unholy..decievers..who chase people awqay from the one-ness"

Above, I unintentionally misposted, yet I note your replay. I agree with you but would add that the Christian God would only forgive if penance is true and contrition is evident. That is, they render themselves to the Courts (contrition) and pray for forgiveness, if truly sorry. Only then according to that Faith would they be forgiven in Heaven. They can still be punished here.

Sorry, I did wish to pull the thread ofm the Missing Link topic and thus should leave it the Abuse Scandal to the proper thread.

its all important oliver

i got many high horses..those who decieve deliberatly..may be forgiven by god..this is totally true..

trouble being..the rest of us..who too are forgiven..[by god]..yet refuse to accept the vile..thus share the hells simply via hating the scum..and scum they are..

im sorry about poluting an important missdirection...miss presumption of a missing link...we all miss the point../behind the con-cept of a link..to sway those needing a belief..based on others thought

anyhow lets se the godhead replacements..make just one like it..before we accept... their theories..as go-spell..theories arnt science..

and the missing link is only a theory..ok the bone fragments are fact..but them being fact of what..needs science proof..not just their egsistance..

red hair egsists..but that dont prove..a missing link..an ape had signs it walked..i see apes do that today..it dont validate anything but to../those..needing yet an other belief system

evolution is prefaced with ..the theory of...and that is all it is..a theory..built upon specious fact..of species evolving..when the genus evolving..that is the inferance,..

BUT that of species evolving..equating proof..of genus evolving ..is not based in science evidence..nor scientific replicat-ability..thus is spurilous..to any knowing the strictness of true science..ie make just one like it...first

natural selection..by its name and nature...
cannot equate to any form of science meth-odoligy,..

thus decieves only the igno-rant..
or those wanting..needing..to be decieved