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Missing link? What evidence would sway creationists?
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Posted by Oliver, Monday, 19 April 2010 7:29:21 PM
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i will let the picture search speak for itself
lets egsamin the scale of the skull http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.profleeberger.com/images/taung001_1_.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.scientificblogging.com/paleontology%3Fquicktabs_1%3D1&usg=__5yUNMZkDrCPEm_OK9wazr5EBitY=&h=254&w=318&sz=11&hl=en&start=6&sig2=9WFe1xLmrudliqJEGwVXfg&itbs=1&tbnid=WCbmwCFUqkM08M:&tbnh=94&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralopithecus%2BSediba.%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26rls%3DMEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=XyHMS_bLMpSekQXK95y3BA this is austro-whatever http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.solarnavigator.net/biology/biology_images/skull_human_specimen.jpg&imgrefurl=http://my.mmosite.com/4e2a5569588f985a6758e139361d1d63/blog/ritem/d86440bfec22b609cac0449093a36321.html&usg=__C4Mwmv8v6uO1jNnqk4QE-MF8np4=&h=334&w=287&sz=14&hl=en&start=3&sig2=ujcln6RdKtGnUXgIZ4J_2g&itbs=1&tbnid=P3TuQyeM7w4YtM:&tbnh=119&tbnw=102&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralopithecus%2BSediba.%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26rls%3DMEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=XyHMS_bLMpSekQXK95y3BA so is this http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/04/09/alg_skull_australopithecus.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/04/08/2010-04-08_fossilized_skeletons_may_be_missing_link_between_apes_and_humans.html&usg=__QQmW8ow-3ozXAaqBuYYpIIslRm4=&h=321&w=485&sz=38&hl=en&start=1&sig2=hIXzAtd7rMkUxEmc4pDrhQ&itbs=1&tbnid=p07gzUS2sgiwLM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralopithecus%2BSediba.%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26rls%3DMEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=XyHMS_bLMpSekQXK95y3BA and this http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tAugm-UtTIw/Sb5JAqVyDUI/AAAAAAAADKo/THhbBHpjPRE/s320/ConeheadSkull2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D921043&usg=__KHUI10-gdu64A7yaHjElr-V0ZRg=&h=294&w=310&sz=24&hl=en&start=7&sig2=KZiFFYujmAqqvF7PexBGIQ&itbs=1&tbnid=dMyl4JQ2O0t_UM:&tbnh=111&tbnw=117&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralopithecus%2BSediba.%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26rls%3DMEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=XyHMS_bLMpSekQXK95y3BA even this http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.liquidmatrix.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/brain.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wopular.com/tiny-insect-brains-can-solve-big-problems&usg=__8P6zSCG4c6D2yTxCZqysygrl2fU=&h=299&w=400&sz=15&hl=en&start=14&sig2=gbVPETA8PdIbeK6wVnZGyw&itbs=1&tbnid=E_O7QPUIjQLRuM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralopithecus%2BSediba.%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26rls%3DMEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=XyHMS_bLMpSekQXK95y3BA so i go to page two here is two more http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://anthropologynet.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/australopithecus_final_large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://anthropology.net/2006/02/18/drawing-a-digital-australopithecine/&usg=__0qlN8yjkvviskIzQ_mQ6V2LWc-0=&h=424&w=400&sz=36&hl=en&start=26&sig2=akIqZFBc0hkMIwqW1gwMoQ&itbs=1&tbnid=cI0ZhWOI6hzhnM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=119&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralopithecus%2BSediba.%26start%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3DMEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=aCLMS7D-MoygkQXou4DCBA http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d22f0e43cc87b4001a7f7b047f1baa86%3Fs%3D128%26d%3Didenticon%26r%3DG&imgrefurl=http://en.wordpress.com/tag/australopithecus-sediba/&usg=__NMgS4USfEZWOXjtM0tkYKlYops0=&h=128&w=128&sz=7&hl=en&start=27&sig2=VYjr9Vc_L7_oR02BxsN0Rw&itbs=1&tbnid=b3iBmrwflHXHiM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=91&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralopithecus%2BSediba.%26start%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3DMEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=aCLMS7D-MoygkQXou4DCBA here is that picture of an ape..then humans compare the differance of the ape/then the human..clearly there is more the same with two/from the left and the modern human..than one is like two http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.parcbench.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Missing_Link.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D129987%26start%3D0%26sid%3Da9c9c99b6211f0b82b614fcfbd644644&usg=__zvJt8ELLapAeynWvHL42WlPuzl4=&h=389&w=767&sz=160&hl=en&start=8&sig2=WOdIo6Pgve8NCyFfRsp2bQ&itbs=1&tbnid=fWbb6WPiLULpLM:&tbnh=72&tbnw=142&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralopithecus%2BSediba.%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3DMEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=sCLMS-fjFoygkQW7trzBBA this picture seems to show the frragments..that underpin your theory http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.scientificamerican.com/media/inline/blog/Image/sediba_skeletons(1).jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm%3Fid%3Dmore-on-australopithecus-sediba-the-2010-04-09&usg=__hl-SFktGV9M_GYmGpWqRLoiHSA8=&h=686&w=680&sz=85&hl=en&start=2&sig2=F1W3Ly3npZAm4Zkh78j1hw&itbs=1&tbnid=Gi7YXSdANSrRCM:&tbnh=139&tbnw=138&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralopithecus%2BSediba.%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3DMEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=sCLMS-fjFoygkQW7trzBBA here is the evolution explained in clear terms http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tGHzOEp3UKA/S74Z-xT0qmI/AAAAAAAABKQ/4sl90jiwpKY/s1600/Kansas.jpg here is what your ausatro looked like http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ACJB-7fQU3s/StAJqvutxiI/AAAAAAAAAAM/HNvf-bNgtus/S220/my%2Bnew%2Bavatar.jpg&imgrefurl=http://sguforums.com/index.php%3Ftopic%3D27331.0&usg=__vr2cZSa2lGj2UCZG7PjQcCiOkWo=&h=174&w=220&sz=12&hl=en&start=64&sig2=z_HPa8WAWreKgBDpgBUdMA&itbs=1&tbnid=MYXG5r1qwWyKZM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=107&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAustralopithecus%2BSediba.%26start%3D54%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3DMEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=2SPMS96HEcqIkAWDudC1BA Posted by one under god, Monday, 19 April 2010 7:36:17 PM
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if your making some point oh-liver..re hiv..go ahead and make it
you know it came via science..using monkey serum/contaminated by ape hiv.to make live virus polio vacine..if you got a point make it clearly.. to quote the length of your absurd miss direction i quote you...<<All HIV strains..will share common ancestors with other viruses,>>ok please give your evidence you continue,..<<as you and I do chimps,>>your evidence? but you create quick joinders..now your hiv variations OF SPECIES..means we are decended from..[to quote you..in your deceptive wordplay..<<and dogs with bears,..and hippopotani with whales.>>>no doudt the missing links will be revealed by you..to be you mr hippo? but you continue your missdirection..based on hiv..<All these species of mammals and viruses share primodial DNA>>..and are therefore distant relatives...missing links?..there seems no limit to your broad brush/off its barely worth replying..your extracted quote is simpliustyic redirective gibberish..please give the context ..full context from which you extracted this bit of clever spin clearly your making it up..as you go..knowing others will get confounded..by your/science gibberish.. say what your trying to confound.. dont just join some spin and call it evidence...lol your a despiritly funny man...sad really..i expected better..but you clearly cant destiguish your species from ya genus did you see them microscopic animals of the sea..on the news today..put there by god alone..to confound the wise..[in their own eyes]..remember..were related to them too Posted by one under god, Monday, 19 April 2010 8:00:22 PM
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Hey, OUG. Have you ever heard of the neat little service they provide at http://tinyurl.com?
Your first link could have been condensed to http://tinyurl.com/y2h97vs if you used it. Or for a more amusing shortening of your links, you could try http://www.shadyurl.com, which condenses your first link to a shorter, but suspicious looking http://5z8.info/start-trojan_u5p7h_racist. Considering the deceitful content of the links you provide, I reckon www.shadyurl.com would be more appropriate. By the way, you’re a little late to this thread unfortunately. We’ve already been through the alleged hoaxes of evolution on this thread. Runner did a good job of making a fool of himself with them before. Posted by AJ Philips, Monday, 19 April 2010 10:41:46 PM
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i have no beef with you mr pill lips..so dont start
i simply copied the save link off the google photo's you trust google..then the links GOOGLE provided..should be completly valid im completly illiterate.. but studied the science..and read verosiously hiv is a hiv virus..get it hiv1 or hiv 2 or hiv 1006..all hiv...= all a genus.. all are a GROUP OF A SPECIFIC VIRUS ..to infure that evolution..of a specific species..[since the 40's..[lol]...of a species..WITHIN ITS GENUS..is any evidence of genus evolving..is completly insane its like saying red hair is proof of apes turning human just because your word rich..but science poor dont be trying to make points..on off topic spin have a nice day..go read some real science.. begin with darwins 4 volume evolution of SPECIES..its a good read..but..species evolving..>>within their genus..is NOT any proof of genus..evolving into any new genus [say virus...evolving into a new genus.. say bacteria/genus..or the genus of cold blood species..evolvuing into warn blood genus..or even fish genus evolving into limbed creatures..that all is outside species evolving..genus is a barrier spin cant overcome...get it these are all unproven..that fish arc-oh-op-tricks..with limbs..has no shoulder blades.. but why try to talk to a believer.. you are free to believe anything you wish... but clearly.. by your lack of facts..have a belief../faith in science decievers..trying to remove the god concept..despite claiming the procces god uses naturally/.. natural selection..belongs to god..the nature of nurture what would convince me?..science making..even one life.. [using its own dust]..or make even a single cell..using its own membrane.. science is run by frauds..wanting to give you their next..adverse reaction its sad you chose to be..so ignorant of the science/deception..go study/present facts.. im sick of rebutting opinion Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 6:05:35 AM
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t have wasted enough time on mr red/blue..mate-tricks..mr pill lips
from http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=gd&q=genus+spread+HIV%2D1B+to+HIV%2D1C+&hl=en-GB&rls=MEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB go to http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089%2F088922203771881149 <<..To estimate the prevalence of HIV strains...other than the predominant HIV-1B..subtype in the U.S. ..blood donor population..we genetically and serologically characterized HIV...in infected blood donations collected throughout he United States from 1997 to mid-2000...Using a combination of DNA heteroduplex mobility..and DNA sequence analyses..of the env and gag regions of HIV-1 ..we determined that 285 of 312 infections..were caused by HIV-1B..and six by non-subtype B HIV-1..(four HIV-1C, one HIV-1AE, one HIV-1A)...Genetic distances of greater than 14% in the envelope V3–V5 region of the four HIV-1C strains indicated that they did not share a recent common origin. HIV-1 group M, N, and O, and HIV-2 specific peptide serological testing..of the 20 PCR-negative samples..determined that one infection was caused by HIV-2..and none by HIV-1 group N and O...>>clearly as it was a us study..the russion experiments will be in a minority ..<<The major risk factor for infection with a non-HIV-1B strain..was sex with an HIV-infected person..from Africa>>>thats a deception..they resulted from africans..deliberatly infected with the african virus..via the polio trials conducted in africa ..<<..although three of seven non-HIV-1B-infected subjects did not fit that category.>>these were from the russion trials ..<<For four of seven non-HIV-1B-infected subjects..the subtype detected was consistent..with the African country of origin..>>trial of the polio live virus<<..of the infected person..or of their sexual partner. ..<<The frequency of genetically confirmed non-subtype-B HIV infection..in a geographically dispersed group of infected U.S. blood donors in 1977–2000 was therefore 2.0%..(6/312).>>the same numbers would apply in a russion test..but inverse..as to its predominate strains within the genus hiv read the full text http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1089/088922203771881149 im over mr red..pill-lips redirections and ignorant muttering Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 7:54:59 AM
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I first came across The Hitch Hicker's Guide on the radio. It was curious first experience given no earlier exposure or forewarning. I too much enjoy Doulgas Adams. As you say, it is different humour to Mars Attacks. Doug Adams was a very talented writer; way out of the box.
I still have my hair. Hence, I must be lower down the evolutionary scale than you.
OUG,
Please refer above on HIV:
Posted by Oliver, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 10:52:22 AM