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Double Dissolution election

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We will still have an election of both houses this year.
Students of politics understand next year we have a half senate election.
Had Rudd already called an election he would not have got a full term in office before another needed to be called.
Not bias but understanding tells me he just must call such an election.
While Conservatives constantly avoid the fact they are blocking a great deal they would pass if they are in office the senate will not return to sanity without both house facing election.
If nothing else the end of the wasting votes party family first will make it worth while.
SA Minister in waiting for poker machines and Murry Darling River will survive.
Rudd too will stay in office, given Abbott's free fall in that debate he can not win ,never could have roll on those debates
Senate?
Who knows Antony Green are you out there?
Wish you could post your ideas here .
But get ready for that both houses election it has to be the only way for Rudd.
Get bills passed ,rid of fools we helped into the senate and a slim chance major party's can work together to stop a lost senate.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 27 March 2010 4:11:07 PM
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Belly, the late mail suggests that Gillard may be leading your party into the next election and, with Anna Lie doing a splended job of ruining any womans hopes of leadership going forward, I doubt Gillard will stand a bulls roar of becoming the next PM.

That aside, as I have said before, all voters in this country, labor, liberal or even the minior parties for that matter, are in a 'no loose' situation, as TA has forced Krudd to 'sharpen his act' and, whether TA leads the libs to the polls, or not, he will always be proud that he has achieved this victory for the average punters.

At best, you can think yourself lucky if your beloved labor party gets a crack at a second term.

But at least we will see a much better performance if they do achieve such a '?'.

I was going to say 'victory', but, as usual, our future government will be decided by whether or not our sitting government looses badly enough.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 27 March 2010 7:24:06 PM
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Do not miss understand me rechtub, I am not trying to be rude to you.
I sometimes appear to be that way but mate in truth rebutting your post is fun.
Your mail was late in my view because it was delivered by a drunk who found it among many silly ideas out side the conservatives policy denials room.
It has no legs no chance ever.
Rudd, please be here after it is over bloke, is home he can not fail, thinking such as yours is helpful to us.
Spite, nastiness, bias, wishes, pleas even do not drive politics.
Hip pocket does self interest always, and Abbott frightens people.
If today Tony Abbott was PM confronted by this senate in Labor and the others hands.
and stopping legislation as important, he would do as Rudd will, dissolve both houses.
After this election, just maybe you will understand each of us, have views and ideas, right now some are gloating and saying how they will give it to me after this election.
Will you admit you got it wrong? or say not me mate Australian voters did.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 28 March 2010 6:21:26 AM
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Will you admit you got it wrong?

Sorry Belly, but I have got it right. At least with regards to Krudd having had to sharpen his act.

Now as for an 'unworkable senate', well, John Howard and the libs have 'been there, done that', so they are very well seasoned when it comes to working with the 'un-workable'.

Cast your mind back to about the 2001-2 election, when JH won a huge majority. What happened, the country BOOMED.

Why, because the 'anti employment laws' of the previous labor party were finally watered down and people , small business, started to employ.

Granted, WC, by all accounts went to far, but none the less our country boomed.

I note the reserve bank gov has idendified 'flexabillity in the workforce' as a key requirement for us to take full advantage of the forthcomming mining boom.

Remember that!

Also, put me on record as saying, I doubt the libs can win the forthcomming election as it will depend soley on how baddly labor goes.

I also think the average punter is a wake up to the previous tricks with the labor party and the unions mounting thier massive scare campaign on the labour front. Also, most have had enough of the 'pretty boy imiage' without the follow up action.

Rudds only claim to fame is the way we rode out the GFC, but hey, this only happened be casue we had 'HAD' money in the bank.

Let's face it, in the eyes of many, Rudd is a Dudd!
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 28 March 2010 7:12:22 AM
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the conversation was to be about the coming election, why it is to be called, why it has not yet and you took the chance to interject your personal slanted view.
Rudd could never have held his huge popularity lead, Abbott is at least an opposition.
And fools rushed into Parliament hurt us and we are no longer out in front.
but you again and again claim unions pulled the wool over voters eyes, rechtub do you not understand the first victims of work choices was low income non union members, most have never been in unions?
how can you truly understand? right now, yes today, 23 workers are struggling, under John Howard's work choices, their boss marched them into the office.
One at a time, told the this has past the fairness test sign it or find another job.
today we battle still, documents from Howard's governments fairness test have emerged, showing for 3 years they have worked without proper payments ,it failed Howard's test.
10 hours with no overtime, no travel, time and a half on Sunday two 12 hour shifts no shift or penalty rates.
your flexible workforce is slavery rechtub, surely you do not want class warfare?
I truly think you require only your wellbeing, have issues with a worker wanting a fair go, how can you live with your self?
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 28 March 2010 4:16:50 PM
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Belly, flexabillity in the workplace does not just involve wages.

You continue to judge me as one who is a 'rip off boss', yet, time and time again I have told you I do not rip staff off. Get it!

Now as for your '35' staff, wow, is that the worst case you could find, out of some 6 million.

Flexability is more about bosses being able to have staff working when they are needed the most, not have them sitting around waiting until some 'breakdown' is repaired, or sitting in some shed playing cards waiting for the rain to pass.

Now I am not suggesting they should be working in heavy rain, or in a breakdown for that matter, but why should they be paid while doing nothing? This is not flexabillity!

Our forthcomming mining boom has the potential to set us up and, the mining industry was very favourable with AWA's. So to were the employees I believe.

This is what the flexabillity is about, not your ongoing rant about people being ripped off.

Now as for the unions, they invested millions last election on scare ads. They, along with Rudd guaranteed no worker would be worse off under labor. More lies!

Finnally, you repeatidly kept stating, 'increased majority' again and again.

As I said, we, the voters of this country have already had a huge victory thanks to TA. Who knows, the libs may just form government yet, esspecially if more of your hard-nose unionists loose faith in your almighty like you seem to be doing.

I recon Rudd has not got the balls to call an early election. Bring it on I say!
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 28 March 2010 6:43:41 PM
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