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The Forum > General Discussion > Do you believe in the survival of the mind-personality, or soul, after death? Why or Why not?

Do you believe in the survival of the mind-personality, or soul, after death? Why or Why not?

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darn read
..can't be destroyed..
not can...the t didnt type

trust the basic science
not fools with adgenda's/guilt/ignorance..
in the matters of enegry/spirit

or seeking ..physical/finantial/ego's.. advantage's..

believe if you have it

disbelieve if their truth causes you fear etc
in the end its your energy..gifted to you from god/the natural behind nature

nurture not nature
/what is natural selection but gods choices
Posted by one under god, Monday, 29 March 2010 6:26:39 AM
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Belly, "cornflower hot threads are good threads surely."

It was 'hot buttons' not 'hot threads' and it would be good to encourage some new opinion to surface.
Posted by Cornflower, Monday, 29 March 2010 8:41:40 AM
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Thanks everyone for your continued
concern and good wishes.

Dear Suze,

I recently came across a website on reincarnation
which told the story of a young Indian girl who
while driving with her parents past some village -
told them to stop at a house where they could get
much better refreshments than in the restaurant
down the road. She described the house in great
detail even though this child had never been to that
part of the country according to her parents.

She also described the family who lived there, including
the nicknames of each family member. It turns out that
family had lost their mother 20 years ago - and this child
was claiming to be her. She was able to describe everything
from her past life. Imagine the effect this would have
on her husband - meeting a child claiming to be
his former wife - and able to supply intimate details to
prove it. Strange hey?

Dear Palimpsest,

Welcome back! And Thank You for all your kind words.

Dear csteele,

I've now stopped taking Amiodarone - and hopefully this will
help me return to normal sooner. The nausea was dreadful -
as well as the lethargy. Not good. I was so relieved to read
that it wasn't just me having problems with this drug. Thanks
for your information. I'll be seeing my doctor tomorrow
and I'll definitely ask about it.

Dear Cornflower,

Your advice has been so helpful to me - I can't Thank You
enough. I will be taking more time off to "smell the roses,"
and relax. I don't ever want another episode like the one
I've had.

Dear Belly,

What more can I say - except that
you're a very special man - and I'm grateful to count
you as a friend.

Dear One Under God,

Thank You for all your inputs.
They are deeply appreciated.
By the way, did you know that I
now have a grandson (first one)
named Johann Vincent?
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 29 March 2010 9:27:25 AM
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Hi Foxy,

Hang in there kiddo. It sounds as though you are getting excellent treatment so I am sure things will turn out OK.

With regard to souls and reincarnation, I am afraid I am a sceptic. I like to have concrete evidence of such. There are many so called paranormal episodes that some people experience, and as we discover more about how the mind works, then I am sure we will open the door to many things we don't now understand. So I ask myself the question "where do all these extra souls come from as our population increases. Are they brand new ones ? Where did the original ones come from?" if there are such things.

There are many phenomena that seem a mystery, so we attach something supernatural to it. Just watch David Copperfield and his "magic" We are amazed, but we know it is an illusion but when these are explained and revealed there is no mystery at all. I'm sure if there were any lost tribes in the world and you tried to explain television to them or any similar modern marvel, they would treat you like a god, but this is only because they don't understand the science.
Posted by snake, Monday, 29 March 2010 9:57:47 AM
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Hi Foxy,

I wont give you any further attention or sympathy. Sorry, not my thing.

I am sorry if you are lonely. But I advise you to go out and make some new friends.

pelican,

'What's the point? It's a valid and good question. '
No it isn't! The whole concept is bizarre. I have no higher calling, purpose or 8 cough cough Bu11shit! stages in my life like cornflowers link.

Life is about doing what's entertaining an what you enjoy, and working as little as possible. 'Purpose', 'calling', they're all guilt inducers put there by people who want you to do stuff for them.

Do stuff for yourself! That also includes doing stuff for people because you like seeing them happy, but it's still all for you!

That's not saying I'm not spiritual. I like wondering off into the wilderness on my own for weeks sometimes, as my compamy is frankly better than most people I know. But this ego driven need people seem to have to 'make a difference' or be remembered or cling on to some semblance of immortality is frankly creepy.

Enjoy the sun on your back, sex, drugs, food, the good stuff in life that you can afford, do more and think less about things that cant lead to any conclusion or solution. Live in the moment or you're wasting a chance to enjoy life.

Don't be scared of death. You wont even know you don't exist any more or that your relatives are snooping through your private stuff.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 29 March 2010 12:00:45 PM
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Dear Foxy

Sorry to hear about your heart problems - went through similar not so long ago and understand your anxiety.

My pragmatic side tells me that the atoms of which I consist will continue; recycled into earth and thence into other living creatures.

However, what I deem as my spiritual side cannot deny a number of events I experienced that do not have a simple scientific explanation; such as living in a haunted house. One when pre-adolescent and two occasions when house sitting. The 'out-of-body' experience I had at the time of my father's death; didn't know he had even been ill till day after he'd died, all very sudden.

However, just because there are things I don't understand doesn't mean that I will fill my gap in knowledge with Christianity, Islam or any other formal religious doctrine. My lack of explanation simply increases my wonderment at this precious little planet, the cosmos, the fact that I exist at all and am writing to you now.

One thing I do know is that love is the one thing that is always there (love is a magic pudding?). I find I always have love for people like your self, Foxy; my family, my friends. Interesting that the converse, 'hate' is transitory; takes too much energy to continue to hate those who have either wished me ill or deliberately acted to hurt; can't say I love them, but I do pity those who behave with malice or even disrespect towards others, what does hate gain anyone?

I have been thinking about this a great deal since reading the lengths people will go to just to paint others as lacking, for example, Peter Selleck's rant against atheism. The description of Richard Dawkins as militant, Runner's regular vitriol. What is the point? We all will die, we can leave this mortal coil with feelings of love towards those we leave behind or we can die hating people who have never done any harm to us greater than holding different opinions.
Posted by Severin, Monday, 29 March 2010 12:07:28 PM
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