Did you have a few beers last night before you posted, Belly? Or are you just doing your loyal union best to confuse the issue?

If you actually read my posts, far from suggesting that Garret is the Union's man, i've suggested that he's so much NOT a union man that they were prepared to hang him out to dry.

I note that you've still not been able to back up your claim that these deaths were due to shonky employers failing to follow the rules established by the Union-dominated Steering Committee.

How about it? Just show that one of the employers of the dead workers was not following the safety rules and I'll shut up about it.

I see that Rudd has stood up for Garret and taken responsibility for the debacle.

He also said the following:"Mr Rudd said the office of the co-ordinator-general worked with the environment department during the program's implementation.

"I'm advised that ... no safety concerns were raised, I'm so advised," he said."

Just to remind everyone who might have forgotten, the Steering Committee that approved the scheme was Union-controlled.

Antiseptic I do not believe any union had control.
Steering committee?
If Rudd, Garrett,any Labor Polly, let a union run this show prove it to me.
Yes it wasted cash, our money, governments do that much better than do it once do it right.
Yes some real products of unwed parents fed on that cash.
Both good contractors and bad won work.
Yes unions do try to get involved in workplace safety,
A union I am aware of invents such issues and turns them into clubs to wack bosses.
At the coal face, at the point of installation, just before these deaths, training or not, the employer under law held a duty of care to his workers.

remember belly you,labor the unions blamed liberals for beaconsfield when in fact it was the unions who did not ensure their safety was ensured.

This is now labors problem and as dudd rudd said, the buck stops with him.

Now you can keep blaming the employers but as we already know that would just make you a hypocrite.

Once again the tarps are pulled over to conceal the wretched state of Australia's construction industry and the home owner, the vulnerable stakeholder with bugger-all lobbying power with the government, will continue to wear the risks and costs.

What is damned unfortunate for home owners, whose homes often represent their greatest single investment of their lifetime, is that government regulation is so poor that cowboys and fraudsters can thumb their noses as they choose at the weak requirements of Building Code and Australian Standards because builders and tradesmen are under no legal obligation to comply. So much for government's concern about building.

The HIA and Master Builders are the builders' trade unions and if anyone wanted to challenge 'unions' for the shoddy state of home construction why not start there? However, be aware that they do seem to have the ear of government and they are big advertisers in the media. Now, where is that risk analysis again, Mr Garrett?

I leave the thread, it has to be, TAPP unable to get people to post in his spite filled threads has found me here.
And I must not continue to answer him.
For the forums sake, if not my own.
It is not debate TAPP seeks but a wall to write his unfocused and untrue verbal grafeetee on.
No well thought out claims just the thoughts of some one unable to see other than a lost distorted view.
I do not idly say this bloke, you do you know, need help, not based on your posts here but your actions in real life.
Play your games but I will leave yet another thread rather than be that wall you scribble on.