OK, so Garret's a bit of a dick, but now he's an experienced dick. The labor government is full of these people, who have never done anything practical, or managed something practical, in their lives.

Chuck out Garret, & what do you get? Thats right, another clean skin dick.

Unfortunately, at great expence to some, Garret now knows;
1/ You never trust public servants to do anything, without oversight.

2/ You never expect them to get anything right, first time, [or second, or third], without lots of help.

3/ You never expect them to do anything quickly. Six months is like tomorrow to them.

4/ They are more interested in not doing anything, than doing it properly. Not getting it wrong is more important than getting it done.

Now lets not waste the lives lost in teaching him these lessons, & replace him. Lets put him to work.

He will never again implement a scheme without adequate oversight, & will never again trust some public servant to do a job. He now knows that's beyond them.

He's not as dumb as most of them. With this knowledge, gained at such cost, he might just become a worthwhile minister.

We should learn from this, not to put people in jobs, where they have a passionate interest. It leads it leads to sloppy thinking.

So Bellt since you havnt answer the question about garrets actions or i should say inaction are the same as beaconsfield, and we should look at hardies

They also knew but did nothing.

So when it gets down to it you will run and act just like these pollies

Change to a nother subject.

When you decide to answer tell me.

Also my father being the secretary for the ASE didnt sit in his office, he was speaking to shop stewards the workers and bosses making sure they where listening.
He was the secretary
the union rep
the union official
When email went on strike on several occasions the other unions would look for him as if the ASE wasnt going out on strike then they didnt, but when the ASE went on strike everybody did, now that is respect.
He was there in the mud in the rain, and was always there for the worker, no matter who was in government.

Belly, you just keep digging a hole, don't you.

You say the work site is 3 km long. So, just how do we get the 'lunch/first aid/ and toilet room to the workers. Is it 'remote controlled' and follows them along. Just curious!

You are a crack up mate. I almost get a 'belly laugh' pardon the pun, when I read the stuff you post at times.

Perhaps you can re-write the award and include an opporator for the 'mobile dunny' at all road construction sites hey!

So how is your mate doing, buring the 'midnight oil' I would suspect hey!

Let's chalk this up as yet another failure of the 'Dudd brigaide'.

I just hope they have a few more 'stuff ups' on their agenda cause who knows, they may just loose badly enough after all hey!

Hasbeen I agree! with every word! gee we may just be getting kind to one another.
Son of a trade union boss and a trade union/Labor man, I am surrounded by two bloke who do not know.
Who seemingly unhappy about dads now gone want to destroy the union movement brick by brick
TAPP, sorry not worth other than this, you are lost, in need of help and I having seen those bizarre election hand written posters will no longer respond to you.
Rechtub, in just a few posts my view of you has change,
It is you who dig that hole, insist on digging it and looking at it as an achievement.
Road construction jobs work in NSW under an act policed by unions and work cover.
Get amenities at work sites a free government document, get also construction amenities.
Such a construction site, home for workers for up to 12 hours a day , and 6 some times days a week has laws.
Yes often won by past generations of Unionists.
But written and enforced by laws.
Just before a meal break those eating, some stay and eat later, are picked up by Utes driven by foremen and leading hands, and taken sometime a long way.
To portable sheds lunch, toilets, first aid to eat in comfort

Those moving on to such a site, even the truck based lunch salesperson have to be inducted site safety is controlled.
Usually three groups of sheds exist middle, bosses offices training rooms and meal rooms each end and while toilet shed exist so do hot smelly plastic porta loos.
Consider this rechtub, your lack of understanding is not a mark of Merritt, you constantly insult road workers using jingoistic references to our soldiers,
How CRIMSON LOW DO YOU WANT TO GO?
My first construction union delegate was a little battle scared bloke mumbling away in Japanese.
The loverly bloke still brings wet eyes on thinking of him, was a prisoner of war, ending in Japan.
Refocus rechtub, see others point of view, understand ,know this I hate Rudd rubbish will still see him returned.
The cynicism but truth in hasbeens post is an acceptable way to complain but you have strange views on an old Aussie mantra I still value +Fair Go Mate+

Belly:"most know it is unlikely even one of these installers, yes not one, is/was a union member."

So that makes them less worthy of decent training? There will be much more about the union role to come out of this. Garrett was a Rudd pick, not a "natural Labor candidate" who had been part of the Union movement and the Labor machine. You commented earlier that "a better man missed out" or something similar, which I think says it all.

Having worked in civil construction for years, for almost every major contractor, I have seen the Union men come onto site and I know what happens - nothing but bignoting and interference with a bloke's work. I've never seen any improvement in conditions as a result of union action, because conditions were always set by the awards. Smoko huts, ablutions blocks, etc have mandatory requirements under various acts in different states.

In a different field, I've been involved in organising a strike with Union backing, organised for a non-unionised workforce to become members of the union to get that backing, then had the union tell us a whole bunch of lies to get us back to work, including that the employer had agreed to terms, when they had refused to do so.

I despise the Union movement as a self-serving rort for a few. Once I was a dedicated union man... The unions have noone to blame for the change but themselves.