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We Need a New Australian Flag

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Cornflower,
Just a parting note.
As an Aussie adopted child growing up in PNG partially between indigenous and Aussie culture of the 50/60 I witnessed systemic appalling colonial behaviour. Much of which was illegal or immoral then.
Coming back to Collingwood (Melb) the discrimination against non Anglo Saxons was palpable and rampant. I do *not* say Aussies are any worse than others but they certainly weren't any better.

In my early years in PNG life was for me a hoot not knowing or caring about the adult reality such is the remembrances of all children, including those whose playground was a rubbish tip.
That is to me why a child's world such an important place. It sets the adult.
There are online migrant displays on the national lirary and some state Libraries/museums. Bonagilla has a website and books pamphlets of those time albeit a little sanitised.I am not or would be angry with you just the notion that Aussies are all saints and the 1950 = the tv families of the time....pure fantasy.

It is because of recognition of reality and the ongoing part non Anglo Saxons including the indigenous,migrants played in this *nation* i advocate a national flag that reflects this, not single out AS as something clearly they all weren't.
But that is my opinion and the final decision as foxy said is *All* the people's.
Posted by examinator, Friday, 29 January 2010 1:28:36 PM
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Dear Cornflower,

I forgot to add a couple of references for your
information - (as you asked):

1) Cropley, A.
"The bloody Balts! A phenomenological
approach to understanding adjustment of Baltic
migrants to Australia."
Baltic studies newsletter, 26 (2/102), 1-8.
2002.

2) Jupp, J.
"From White Australia to Woomera: The story
of Australian Immigration."
Cambrdige University Press, Port Melbourne, 2002.

3) Kunz, E.
"The intruders: Refugee doctors in Australia."
Australian National Press, Canberra, 1975.

4) Panich, C.
"Sanctuary? Remembering post-war immigration."
George Allen & Unwin, Sydney, 1988.

5) Theophanous, A.C.
"Understanding multiculturalism and Australian
identity."
Elikia Books, Melbourne, 1995.

6) Tarvydas, R.
"From amber coast to apple isle: Fifty years of
Baltic immigrants in Tasmania, 1948-1998."
Baltic Semicentennial Commemoration Activities
Organising Committee, 1997.

7) Taskunas, A.P.
"Five common myths about migrants in Australia."
Chapter 4 in Taskunas, A.P. ed. (1981).
"Industrial relations: Introductory readings."
Dept. of Political Science, University of Tasmania. 1981.

8) Vasta, E. & Castles, S. eds.
"The teeth are smiling: the persistence of racisms in
multicultural Australia."
Allen & Unwin, St Leonards, NSW. 1996.

Then of course there's also classics like the film
"Silver City," starring Steve Bisley, Ivar Kants,
Ava Maria Monticelli, Gosia Dobrowolska - which
vividly captures the lifes of post WWII immigrants in
Australia - with writers like Thomas Kenneally,
contributing to the script.

The film should be available at any State Film Centre -
or State/National Library.

Hope this helps.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 29 January 2010 2:34:01 PM
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Whatever the faults of policies past certainly beats the crap we have to deal with now. I feel I am persecuted just because I decided to live here. Sort of thought we came here to get away from that was the reason we did come. What a load of crying over nothing. I have lived on 3 continents and this country has the least to cry about but cries and whines the most.

How about we just end Multi-culturalism becasue Australia will NEVER ever be able to please such a large range of whiners.
Posted by TheMissus, Friday, 29 January 2010 5:54:57 PM
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Dear TM,

This may give you and other readers a bit of a giggle.
I came across it quite by accident:

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26634699-5013016,00.html

Its an article in the Courier Mail by Anna Caldwell,
January 26, 2010.

I'll quote a bit from it:

"Controversy is set to be fried up today with an Australian
egg company launching a cultural dig at the British.

Named the "Whingeing Pom Egg," they feature a frowning
face the opposite to the usual Sunny Queen smiling eggs.

The carton says the eggs: "help you wake up cranky
and keep on whingeing all day long."

In a press release the company claims it studied
"behavioural traits of Poms in their natural habitat."

It quotes Assoc. Professor Lliam Anderson -
"Our research found that the English preferred to wake
up in a less optimistic, less good-humoured mood.
Further still, we found that the gene responsible for
whingeing is larger in Poms than in any other race,
particularly Aussies, confirming that whingeing is
actually part of the British generic make-up."

Sunny Queen Eggs are going to trial the eggs in
Sydney and Melbourne.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 29 January 2010 7:08:13 PM
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What a great argument, an imperfect past legitimizes today's mindlessness.
Posted by individual, Friday, 29 January 2010 7:20:32 PM
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Foxy

Again, where does any of that support your assertion that, "They (migrants) were ...invariably doing jobs rejected by other Australians."?

It is easy to trash Australia or any other country by cherry-picking, taking things out of context and by not comparing and contrasting with other countries, especially where the past is concerned - but for what purpose and where does that get you?

Bible (Matthew), “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

examinator

Your straw men, your problem, deal with them.
Posted by Cornflower, Friday, 29 January 2010 9:40:21 PM
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