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The Tragedy of Haiti
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Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 17 January 2010 10:28:25 AM
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Poirot, I read your links.
Haiti's problems are far greater then the "evil capitalists/world bank/IMF" In the past, the country has been given huge amounts of aid, but the fact remains that a country can't go from poverty to prosperity, based on charity donations. Tourism is a great industry for the West Indies, not so for Haiti, because with so much crime and lawlessness, tourists stay away, not willing to be mugged as part of their holidays. Prosperty is not a god given right, its an opportunity for those who want to take it and there is enough evidence that it can be achieved with sound economic and legal policies. Without capital investment, it simply won't happen and people won't invest, if there is no functioning rule of law, or if their assets are likely to be expropriated or stolen. Rather then blaming those "evil capitalists" for everything, perhaps you should ask yourself why other countries in the West Indies are doing quite well in comparison to Haiti. Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 17 January 2010 2:16:35 PM
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Poirot,
Thanks for that link, I will check again later to see if is being updated. It is now about 5 days since the quake and I notice an absense of many countries, including the oil rich countries such as Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. if small countries such as NZ, Belgum and Sth Korea can give aid, I wonder why others do not. Worth noting. Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 17 January 2010 3:00:54 PM
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Yabby,
The following link (my last on this subject, I promise) may provide further insight into Haiti's struggles for self-determination. A comparison between Haiti and other Caribbean nations should take into account the amount of intervention that has been thrust upon the Haitian people. http://soc.hfac.uh.edu/artman/publish/article_94.shtml Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 17 January 2010 4:57:35 PM
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Poirot, I read your link, which sounds to me that it is more
about your own political viewpoint, then anything else. So I found a more objective source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti Parts of Port-au-Prince are considered the "most dangerous place on earth". After reading the wiki history, I can only conclude that whilst many nations did indeed interfere in Haiti affairs, much of their poverty is in fact self inflicted. Most of the trees were cut down as firewood, for an ever increasing population. Perhaps some real family planning is long overdue in Haiti and if in future their violence continues as in the past, it will remain a disfunctional and poverty stricken country. All very sad but true. Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 17 January 2010 5:50:21 PM
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Dear Poirot,
I read an interesting article on Haiti - in this Saturday's, (16th January, 2010) Insight section, of Melbourne's - The Age, newspaper, written by Jon Henley. In it he describes how the country and its capital city 'find themselves straddling the major fault line between North America and Caribbean tectonic plates'. And if that's not enough Haiti is also ' positioned plumb on the region's principal hurricane track,' which in consecutive years has not only killed people but devastated 70 percent of Haiti's agricultural land. Haiti has also - fallen victim to calamitous flooding in 2002, 2003, (twice), 2006 and 2007. Haiti is apparently a country which is a constant and heart-rending site of recurring catastrophe. Alex von Tunzelmann, a historian and writer working on a book about Haiti, says: "Haiti has had slavery, revolution, debt, deforestation, corruption, exploitation, and violence... Now it has poverty, illiteracy, overcrowding, no infrastructure, environmental disaster and large areas without the rule of law." And that was before the earthquake. As Jon Henley points out - " This is a catastrophe beyond our worst imagination." Unfortunately nobody is coming up with what's to be done to solve the problem of Haiti. All we're being told is that Haiti is impacted by natural disasters much more than some of its neighbours - that the infrastructure is so poor that the Government can't control all its territory - but no one is suggesting ways to improve things. The title of your thread Poirot is very apt - it is very much - 'The Tragedy of Haiti.' Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 17 January 2010 5:51:05 PM
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Here is a link to guardian.co.uk where you will find a list of donor countries. The World Bank is also listed as contributing, although it is supplying an emergency loan and not a donation.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/jan/14/haiti-quake-aid-pledges-country-donations