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What do you think of this woman morally?

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Well if cannot talk the tongue language you speak the other languages, everyone needs communication and the company of other people. Just life.
Posted by TheMissus, Sunday, 17 January 2010 7:50:01 PM
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Examinator,

Interesting topic, and one with which I can identify.
I found out I was adopted when I was fifteen. I had no idea where I had originated from until a phone call from my half-sister when I was forty-two. Unfortunately, my biological mother had died the year before.
It turns out she had met an American man over here working for a music company - I was the result - lucky me.
I have his name, but can find no trace - he may or may not be American Indian - the details are sketchy.
My mother married an Estonian man a few years after I was born.
My half-sister, who is as blond as I am dark, has given me a lot of info about my maternal side, which seems to be mostly Scottish stock. I've managed to do quite a bit of genealogical scratching about - and for a history buff like myself, its nice to be aware of part of my family's history.
I had a half-brother too - he was born after my half-sister but he died soon after birth. I remember feeling so sad when I found that out - for my mother had lost two of her children - me and my brother.
I have a photo of a particularly handsome couple, young and vibrant in their swimming costumes at the beach, taken sometime around 1930 - my biological grandmother and grandfather - great, eh!
Like TheMissus says - Just life.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 17 January 2010 9:25:57 PM
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What happened to Examinators mother reminds me of a country music song sung by a female singer called; "Unwed Fathers". You are very unlikely to hear it as the male DJs and the male powerbrokers in the music industry made sure it received no publicity or promotion.

Examinator states<he was a drifter, fathered children here and there but ran.>

He could run couldn't he? because he didn't have one of his children to lug along with him as your mother did. He didn't have to decide whether to have an abortion or not. I understand that growing up in an orphanage probably caused him to be emotionally crippled(given the horrors that we now know happened in these places)but the women were still left holding the bundle so to speak.

Howards retro attitude towards old time values was more to do with his hatred of what he perceived as the rich end of town having to pay taxes for the poor or disadvantaged like abandoned mothers and children. It was more to do with the distribution of wealth than any religious conviction.

Unwed fathers who have moved on with a new partner and have fathered other children, also like to heap scorn and blame on the woman and children they have left behind, because they can't afford to support their first children, as well as the new ones they have irresponsibly (in a financial sense), fathered. They find it hard financially so heap hatred on the abandoned mother. Their new wife also resents the previous mother because she doesn't want her husband or partners money and resources being directed to any other children but her own.

There is a real culture of jealousy and hatred in Australian culture directed at single mothers that comes more from the unwed fathers and their jealous new partners. It all boils down to money not religion.

Examinator I am sorry for what your mother and half brother suffered at the hands of the Germans and society in general. It is horrific.
Posted by sharkfin, Monday, 18 January 2010 5:21:05 PM
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Well said Sharkfin. I would never seek to try to judge anyone, male or female, unless I had all the facts.

Many children of dysfunctional or fractured families never do get the whole story from their parents and therefore often wrongly judge them.

At the end of the day most parents do the best they can with what they have to work with- which can often be not much.

For years I thought my father was a womanizer and a cheat, as that was what my mother told us.
Now I have the whole story from my father and his family, I now realise they both contributed to the demise of their marriage.
I wish I had been told the truth a lot earlier.
Posted by suzeonline, Monday, 18 January 2010 11:46:51 PM
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G'day Sharkfin - is this the song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlEGb-8Hjrk&feature=related

There are a couple of bloke singers but couldn't understand the lyrics, so that's Tammy Wynette.
"Tammy Wynette's cover of the John Prine song "Unwed Fathers".

Runner, <"She made bad choices which were made easier by the secular society we live in. She might be a devoted Lutheran but it appears she is not a devout Christian otherwise she would not get into such a mess.">

What about the fathers? - any words about the bad choices they make, or are they absolved from condemnation because they get to avoid the mess?

Examinator: thank you for reminding us of how people struggle against injustice and cruel judgments; and ty for telling it from a personal perspective. Very compelling.
Posted by Pynchme, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 12:07:01 AM
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From these examples of hurt, injustice and bad choices we can all learn, there is a better way to avoid hurt, injustice and bad choices; as it is that way we are able to conclude what is ill, good and better.
Posted by Philo, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 7:44:19 AM
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