SM
I hereby give you temporary membership to the my version of Humanism.(until your next pro Liberal, pro capitalist, hell with human rave that is. ) :-) :-)

Does this mean we can abort the 'mad monk' ? (joke)

SM
#$#@* wrong button! I should have added
....and call it a VERY late termination.

and of course giving the baby up to one of the numerous desperate parents to be on the adoption list is not a choice for those who make a lifestyle choice. There is nothing more selfish and self serving than this kind of justification.

Ex,

I have long been an advocate of involuntary euthanasia for the likes of Abbot and Rudd, (possibly all politicians) to put and end to the unnecessary suffering (ours)

Runner, would you give up yours to be raised by atheists?

Rusty

I do not classify myself as a Christian to do so would be to lump myself into another stereotype, and the fundamentalists have made this a bad thing.
I do however believe that when it is life threatening, then a termination may be necessary, but as for life choice, no.

If I miss a turn off on the freeway I don't race across the 3 lanes to dart up the ramp at the last minute. I go to the next exit and either come back and do it right, or I find an alternate way.

This means, that for every action there is a re-action, if we make a mistake there are consequences, removing the consequences removes the need to take care.

I also do not believe in life sentences for minor offences, now I am not saying getting pregnant is minor, but the act may have been.

Adoption is the answer, I am adopted, and I have had the good fortune to have met a brother and sister who were adopted, and one brother that was not.

Having to go through the pregnancy and giving up your child is the consequence, your consequence. Keeping him in poverty and abuse etc, is a consequence to the child, as is death (abortion), but he has done no wrong.

Of course there are medical and psychological risks with adoption, but they are less than those of abortion.

I am glad I am adopted, so are my brother and sister.

and as for pre-natal screening, we go right off the track here. One of the biggest groups screened for is Down's Syndrome, they I believe, are higher on the evolutionary ladder than we are.

Give me a city full of adopted children and people with Down's Syndrome, for it would be a happpier place.