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Should Australian women be told of Abortion-Breast Cancer link?

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Indeed Pericles- I'm afraid my pigeon-holing is too narrow to accommodate, so far, only Norma McCorvey (I'll leave it at that for the moment). Nathanson officially converting to Catholocism not too long after he changed his abortion stance doesn't quite fall short, I'm sorry to say.

And Runner- again, this is the second time I'll respond to you (as I'm guessing you will speed read this, if at all), mostly because it brings me back to my question to Herman;
You mentioned 'honest statistics'- well we gave you the honest statistic already, and brought up a few direct references to the article posted and pointed out that it was through DRUG induced abortions/miscarriages (with no mention of surgery), that lead to only a potential increase in breast cancer.

But go ahead and spread the word- so long as you spread the precise phrase I wrote above or else your statement might be viewed as dishonest and deceptive- and you're definetely not the type to stoop to that.
Also, go ahead and tell the 'sodomites' (an incredibly unrelated group to anyone but yourself) that they will get cancer for their 'activities'- of course, if your study boiled down to lack of condoms you will again look quite silly.

But on that note Herman, I want to ask you- were you aware of the overall data and details of your own study?
Posted by King Hazza, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 6:32:47 PM
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While we're asking questions of the delightful Herman...

Herman, are you a Christian?

A yes or no will do.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 7:33:10 PM
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Sorry, thanks for the replies to my queries too.

I'm Christian pro-choice/anti-lifestyle abortions. I lost a kid to a lifestyle choice of an ex. Never really gotten over it. There's a place for abortions, and although women shouldn't be vilified for lifestyle abortions I think it's up to the individual to deal with the consequences of bad, but conscious decision.

If you REALLY don't want kids, don't have sex, or take the morning after pill. Knowing I had NO say in the situation was one of the hardest experiences I've been through.
Posted by StG, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 10:04:56 PM
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STG, et al

The legal issue with abortion is that a woman has the right to decide what happens to her body. And as much as you cannot be forced to donate organs or blood to save someone else, she cannot be forced to carry a child. The issue of when life begins is actually irrelevant.

If the courts decided that the mother rights could be over ridden, then likewise people could be forced to donate blood etc.

Most people that terminate their pregnancies do so with a lot of anguish, generally because becoming a single mother will seriously affect their education, careers etc. Calling it a "life style choice" is flippant and as relevant as calling euthanasia a "life style choice".

Finally saying "If you REALLY don't want kids, don't have sex" is as nonsensical as saying "If you REALLY don't want to get, don't eat."
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 7:37:33 AM
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My ex couldn't wait to get rid of it. Not saying that says anything but who she is as a person, she was awesome and we still keep in touch, but she was in her early 20's and just didn't want a kid at that time. She wanted to see the world, and did, and she knew at the time if she had a child she wouldn't be able to when she wanted.

Life style, choice. It was a relief for her as it is for many others that have abortions.

...and you chose to miss the bit about the birth control I mentioned.

"Life style choice" may not be a best label for it but it describes the circumstances surrounding the decision. Don't be so sensitive.
Posted by StG, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 4:48:27 PM
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STG,

The term "life style choice" was spawned by the anti choice / pro life campaigners as spin precisely to infer that it is a small adjustment in the way one lives ones life, when for those that choose termination, the consequences of an unplanned pregnancy can be severe, and permanent. For those that want:

an education,
to establish a career,
to choose a life time partner,
to live where they wish,

This can all come to a screeching halt with an unwanted child, and to call it a life style choice is deliberately misleading.

For example, I know of a woman who could not take up a job interstate, as the "father" had visitation rights and would not permit the move. etc. She works as a medical technician, as she had to quit university, and is still single, and from a brief encounter is tied to a man she now despises, who contributes almost nothing to raising the child.

"Life style choice"?

The desire to have sex for youngsters is strong and often emotionally based and those that for what ever reason incorrectly use the contraceptive, or it fails, why should they get a "life sentence".
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 14 January 2010 11:42:20 AM
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