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Australia racist again, oh dear!

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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/990933/racist-kfc-cricket-ad-causes-uproar-in-us

US is up in arms because an Australian cricketer shares some KFC with West Indian crowd.

Apparently it is racist to offer fried chicken to West Indians.
Posted by TheMissus, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 10:43:55 AM
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Yes we have done it again, upset the yanks.
We all know they have no racism there.
Thought the thread may be about the brutal murder of that poor Indian bloke, my wishes and thoughts are with his familly.
We are a bad mob, no not realy but makes for a good laugh, news papers you see world wide need to be sold, more like comic books every day.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 5:03:38 PM
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Trouble with the internet. Everything that is done, ven on TV, has to culturally appropiate for the Americans just in case it makes to you tube or soemthing, they own the net apparently. Perhaps Conroy does not need to bother with net censorship, the Yanks will do for us,.
Posted by TheMissus, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 5:16:22 PM
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I think that Brendan O'Connor got it right with the Seppo's being insulated. The vast majority don't have an OUNCE of understanding of what's going on outside of the states and they don't care too.

They don't get our humour. You won't see them TRYING to grasp it either.
Posted by StG, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 6:26:41 PM
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Gee, I thought KFC came from America in the first place. So, perhaps it's their fault for inventing it in the first place.

Perhaps they may consider channeling all the francise profits down the line and into the pockets of those who are offended by fried chicken.

After all, they started it.

What a bunch of tossers!
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 7:50:09 PM
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On the Huffington post website they ran this story and have 763 replies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/05/kfcs-racist-ad-australian_n_412002.html
Posted by TheMissus, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:35:15 PM
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Here we go knocking the Americans again, how dare we. When I went to the US (Los Angeles - 1992 coincidently)

Now I saw absolutely no poverty or prejudice. Well not until I got off the plane. America is like our mums, "Don't pick at that scab", or are they walking through a mirror maze and seeing a distorted image of themselves.
Posted by Wybong, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 11:05:46 PM
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I just had to comment again, damn you yanks your using up my allocation.

This would have to be the biggest concoction of tripe since the election of George Bush (There was 2, take your pick)

Any Australian reading this will already know what I mean, so this is for all the Americans who may be reading this.

Firstly, forget the racial connotations, or that it was KFC or who or where KFC originated. It was CRICKET, it's sacred.

But it is a perfect example of their ignorance, their belief that they are somehow superior at least on moral and social grounds then most other nations.

Their total lack of knowledge about the relationship between the West Indians and Australians, especially when it comes to cricket is only overshadowed by their inability to admit that most of the problems and prejudices in the world found their roots in the Good Ol US of A.

Maybe the Americans aren't the smartest kid in the school, but they are the biggest.

Reminds me of a joke.
Q: "What side of the street does a Hell's Angel walk down"
A: "Any side he wants to"
Posted by Wybong, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 11:31:57 PM
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Belly, I thought the thread might be about the young Indian bloke (or blokes since there have been a few incidents lately) - I feel so sad about it. Tragic waste of a young man's life; a loss for us all.

I know it isn't quite the right thing to do and that we'll probably never find out - but I would be most interested to know the ethnicity of the people doing those attacks on Indian students. I am wondering if the rash of attacks aren't the outcome of some sort of imported conflict from elsewhere. Does anyone know - have any perpetrators been caught and where do they hail from ?

I know that we have seen some disgraceful, cruel and racist comments even on this forum - but white Australians killing people just because they are non-Anglo would be a very unusual event. Also, we have many Aussies of Indian, Asian and whatever descent - I find it hard to believe that that sort of cowardly violence would be the norm amongst us.

Anyway whoever did it; I hope they are rounded up and cop the harshest penalties the law has to offer.

As for this nonsense about the KFC ad; apart from it having nothing whatsoever to do with anything beyond cricket biz - don't African-Americans eat KFC ? Just wonderin'.
Posted by Pynchme, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:02:30 AM
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With an open mind, heart, and ears, just spend a week watching fox news.
No more please, it is more than a human can stand.
It is home for a window not into the good in America.
And highlights such junk as this storey is.
Those anti Indian this? was this one?
It may well not be.
In a Sydney suberb other than Australian born did appear to be on one side of the event Indeans on the other.
In my view the same jinjoism/blind to others nationalism is aperent in some Indians that we are talking about in some Americans
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 7 January 2010 5:07:42 AM
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The ad clearly isn't racist in an Australian context. I understand that it was screened during the recent Test against the West Indies, and its humour is all about cricket, not race.

Americans don't "get" cricket, and as others have pointed out are generally remarkably ignorant of the world beyond the USA. Hell, they probably wonder why there's so many 'black' people in Austria.

Mind you, I suspect that KFC's reputation (and sales) will ultimately suffer more from this storm in a chicken barrel than will Australia's international reputation - which isn't all that great on matters of race anyway.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 6:15:40 AM
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We don't have African Americans in Australia, which means there are no connotations with Fried Chicken and racism against them in Australia. Americans should realise that their cultural sensitivities are not the same as those in the rest of the world, it is typical US arrogance. Get over yourselves....Your cultural issues are yours and yours alone. You have the great history of racism and black slavery, Australia is based on white slavery and we have a very different way of looking at things.
Posted by sammyG, Thursday, 7 January 2010 9:16:36 AM
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There was never a stronger case for the Yanks to learn and play cricket.
Posted by phoenix94, Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:10:51 AM
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Remember that U Tube clip in the US where they were asking people on
the street to point out different countries on a world map ?

Well, many couldn't even find the United States.
So really it is just another one of those things, the poor dears
can't help themselves.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:22:36 AM
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Bazz, I lived in the US and met seomeone from Canada. An American in the group asked where that was. I thought a little extreme until I heard an Australian say the closest country to Australia was New Zealand.

However, they do live in la la land. I have seen mnay that proclaim Australia to be behind the US by 50 years. like we are in the 50's.

Plus they do have a different way to address issues such as racism. they honestly feel that keeping a yard worker or housekeeper on $20 a day is good doing a favour, they have no concept that exploitation is bad. I have a run in once when I was told that the $80/week housekeeper they employed was good thing. It was difficult to argue against their suggestion that Indigenous Australian would better off being live in help rather than do nothing. I said I would only even consider doing that if I paid them enough for them to put a roof over their own head and pay for their childrens education.

Very different culture, we are not behind, we are not ahead..just culturally different. Perhaps in too many minor ways to suggest we are more alike than we actually are. the reason they butt in too often.
Posted by TheMissus, Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:41:38 AM
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KFC have pulled the ad from the airwaves. Not that is shown in the US, the Americans found it on You Tube.

CENSORED BY AMERICA.

AMERICAN IMPERIALISM

WE MUST COMPLY
Posted by TheMissus, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:14:29 PM
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I don't want to add insult to injury, but West Indians aren't Afro/Americans, black Americans. I wonder if its dawned on our lessor cousins in the USA that the WI's might have a different culture than them, after all they do have their own country where they are dominant.(The blackness of their president isn't even commented on) pity about the yanks though.

Do we mention there weren't any Americans represented in the ad. So what's it got to do with them anyway. The ad involve two separate countries. And think, they wondered why the Muslims got upset at the cartoon of Mohammad.

I think that the Aussie fan's manners are poor he didn't offer the West Indians desert ....watermelon perhaps?
Not a good look Yanks.
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 7 January 2010 1:34:43 PM
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<< AMERICAN IMPERIALISM >>

Talk about hysterical. Given the dominance of American corporations in Australia's fast food market in recent decades, I'd have thought that this is a case of 'chickens coming home to roost'.

For TheMissus' benefit - KFC is an American corporation that flogs crap food on to undiscerning consumers all over the world. I really wouldn't be very upset if they lose money over this nonsense, but I doubt they'll notice it.

It's crap, unhealthy food anyway. I hope they go broke, but not because of this advertisement.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 1:51:16 PM
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Still, perhaps we shouldn't be too hard on the Yanks.
I was in a shop in Austria once and as I spoke English the shopkeeper
asked if I was English, "No I said"
Oh American ?
No I said.
She was stumpted, (good cricket term).
She could not think of another country that spoke English.
I put her out of her misery and she said, Oh, you speak English !

Missus, ah yes, well many people think it is Timor, but it is not,
it is New Guinea.
I have won a few bets on which is the closest to Asia ?
Paris or Australia ?
Another one is Closest to Korea, Europe or Australia ?

That came up when Nth Korea was lauching its intercontinental rockets.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 3:00:39 PM
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CJ Morgan

Of course you would say that. Running around declaring fatwa against anyone you do not agree with would be heaven for you.

The US imperialism has affected our food choices but we do not have to buy it. If they are going to censor everything on You tube then we may as well sign up as their next state, get our star on their flag and be done with it.
Posted by TheMissus, Thursday, 7 January 2010 6:29:49 PM
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So the Yanks are being a wee bit silly. I guess it is kind of them to provide us with a bit of entertainment on a slow news day, but it is worth remembering they have no monopoly on it. We have people here campaigning against Coon Cheese because thet think the name is racist.

Then I see here we had the Melinda Tankard Reist article "Shock horror: nude supermodel has dimple on thigh" which I thought should have had the impact of power puff, but to my amazement half a dozen females did actually respond to the article with shock and horror.

And we have HermanYutic claiming Google censors the internet. But not because it does (it can't), or because its searches are biased, but because the searches it _suggests_ don't meet HermenEutic's expectations.

The world is full of idiots. It always has been. My only complaint is their antics don't really belong on the pages of newspapers. I don't blame the idiots for that. I blame the editors, who should know better than to put them on the pages.
Posted by rstuart, Thursday, 7 January 2010 6:31:25 PM
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TheMissus: << Running around declaring fatwa against anyone you do not agree with would be heaven for you. >>

Fatwa? I don't think hoping that KFC goes broke qualifies as fatwa - and besides which I'm not a Muslim.

rstuart: << The world is full of idiots >>

Indeed, and we have our share here, apparently.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 7:51:27 PM
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More sensibly, I think that this whole KFC ad thing is utterly hilarious, in a very postmodern way.

An American transnational corporation airs an effective and amusing advertisement to flog their junk food to Australians, and the American media go berserk about purported Aussie racism. Aussies are bemused or indignant. It's fascinating and funny at so many levels.

This is one of those rare moments where I wish I was still teaching undergraduate anthropology - we would have had a lot of fun with this.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 8:29:12 PM
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