Arjay,

Pericles, is correct it was about accounting systems. There was plenty of independent sources that confirmed that at the time. Accounting methods too can add to the dysfunction between entities.

I wouldn't be surprised to find $300 million being squirreled away on politically sensitive payments and the accountant in question wouldn't be told. However, to interpret that as justification for a conspiracy involving $3.2 trillion, part of which was to wipe out the twin towers and building 7 is ludicrous.

In fact mega conspiracies are the products of over fertile imaginations and * a total lack of understanding * of human psychology and knowledge of practicalities. A secret of that magnitude would have to involve too many weak links and by definition not have enough beneficiaries to be sustained.

The whole economic system (magic pudding)and AGW on the other hand are simply denial because too many beneficiaries of the status quo.

The fact that deniers leap on conspiracy theories is 99 out of 100 the people just don't want to believe the facts because they have some emotional reason not to i.e. Elvis is alive, conspiracy theories.

John Lennon was a bit of a drama queen back then [though his heart was in right place]. As we see here he needs to be prompted by Yoko, but the theme of his message is the one from his good mate Donovan, who in turn got it from Buffy Saint Marie, an Amer Indian.

song was Universal Soldier, ie saying same as FF Cuppola said in Apoc Now, ie just as now it is the blood thirsty American TV [voters] that decide that we must have wars [or even "things" like Vietnam that were not actually declared wars]. Like FFC does that great cameo as cameraman as Napalm King Kilgore incinerates the kiddies - "just go past like you're fighting, don't look at the camera".

but here is the whole story

[will send this first and look for link]

so what did Washing do? Well they commissioned Hollywood to make a "BlockBuster" Universal Soldier, ie soldiers with prongs sticking out of head - much more to taste of people

here is Buffy, explanation and song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGWsGyNsw00

Examinater.Building 7 came down in 6.5sec. 186 m tall.It reached an maximum speed in excess of 200 kph.For 3 sec it came down at virtual freefall.It is impossible for this to happen if the upper floors are crushing the lower floors.

I've met Dr Frank Legge, he and an international team of scientists led by Prof Niels Harrit have found conclusive proof that nano -thermite a highly sophistocated explosive known only to the US military to present in both the dust and rubble of the towers and building 7.

I also met recently a physics Professor, Steven Jones of and the evidence damning.This is forensic science unlike climate science is very precise.It is ether right or wrong.If you cared to go to this site http://www.ae911truth.org/ you will see volumes of conclusive evidence from nearly 1000 architects and engineers who attest to these facts.Many won't join since it will impact adversely on their careers.

Recently John Bursill(rep for aetruth in Aust), an aeronautical engineer saw Brian Wilshire of 2GB and the evidence was totally convincing to him, but it was too hot for 2GB.You will have noticed recently articles in the Sydney Morning Herald in which Jan Utzon ,son of Jorn Utzon has joined the movement in requesting that new enquiry be instigated into 911.

These people are not a bunch of crackpot wackos.They are people of
intellect, integrity and courage who know the truth.There are millions of people around the planet who know the truth but our media is extremely controlled here.That is why we have been protesting outside the ABC.Their workers have been instructed not to take our literature because the truth is causing unrest.

Many ask how they logistically keep this a secret.Well they kept the Manhatton Project secret which gave us the nuclear bomb.

Clutching at straws again, I see, Arjay.

>>Jan Utzon ,son of Jorn Utzon has joined the movement in requesting that new enquiry be instigated into 911. These people are not a bunch of crackpot wackos.They are people of intellect, integrity and courage who know the truth<<

Not necessarily.

They might simply be gullible people who will sign anything after a few beers in a Manly hotel. Let's face it, we've all been there...

"Mr Utzon said he had become interested in exploring theories about the attacks after staying at a Manly hotel whose owner introduced him to some websites. The hotel owner encouraged him to sign Mr Gage's online petition, which he did. However, he had not read any of the official reports and therefore did not regard himself as well informed."

http://www.smh.com.au/world/utzons-son-signs-up-for-september-11-conspiracy-theory-20091124-jhf7.html

Yes, he's famous, thanks to his illustrious father.

But his signing the petition didn't exactly take "intellect, integrity and courage", did it?

Nor was he at all representative of people who "know the truth", was he, given the fact that he based his signature on information from "some websites" (and we all know which ones they would have been, don't we?), and didn't bother to look any further.

I did rather like the journalist's description.

"As conspiracy theories go, it is up there with the CIA assassination of president John Kennedy and the faked moon landings."

Do you happen to have a view on either of these two, Arjay?

I would imagine that the vast majority of signatories "joined" in a similarly uninformed fashion to Utzon.

Probably after a few beers, too. That's when these events suddenly become crystal clear, isn't it?

I think it's called the "VB moment".

Pericles,have you ever bothered to look at the evidence? Dr Frank Legge[ Aust],Prof Neils Harritt and 7 other scientists have found conclusive eveidence of nano-thermite known only to the US military.The total volume of evidence is enormous and conclusive.You have other agendas which are not about learning the truth.All you can do is ad hominem attacks to hide your bias.If you view Blueprint for Truth you will see the scientific method applied to reveal a disgusting reality that must be defeated. http://www.ae911truth.org/

How would you stop the USA from expanding their war fronts and placing us in more peril or do you see their wars as being just? No weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.Bin laden has been dead for years.Vietnam was a lie and so is Afghanistan.It is all about profit for the arms dealers,oil companies and the banks who finance them.