see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1leQ-Pn90IU John Lennon is a very powerful orator at the end of this short video clip.

We are at the crossroads of a very important time in our history.The war mongering USA will be tempted like past generations to use war to unite a flagging domestic economy and maintain the reigns of power at any cost.The USA is stone motherless broke.

They have 700 bases around the planet and wars raging in 3 countries.They have mind boggling deficits of which they cannot possibly afford the interest,let alone repay the principal.

The question is:Are we going to stand up as individuals and stop this insanity before it is too late,or let our Govts seduce us into complacency?

Change will not happen unless we the people make an effort.Govt exists for it's own purposes and will drift along with the power of corporate money if we do not make a stand.

Arjay,
This insanity will not stop until those who direct this insanity ran out of morons to follow their orders. Greed is of course the one & only problem. Not just greed for monetary wealth but greed for power, lust & religion. Look at how it works. A handful of egotistical power mongers get elected by the majority bunch of non-thinkers & presto ! we have the mandate for more insanity. The threat of losing hard-earned & easily earned property & lifestyle is sufficient to get the non-thinkers to rise up against each other at the whim of the power mongers. What is a moron ? well, a moron can be stupid or from my personal experience, can also be highly educated. A moron is one who only thinks of themselves i.e. investment mongers who don't care if a young couple can't afford a house because the investment monger has bought it just so it'll be worth more in a few years by doing nothing & in the meantime charge exorbitant rent to those who save up for a house. A moron is one who screams global warming but goes out & buys a 2nd car & more air conditioners. A moron screams we need better roads & drives at 150Km/h. A moron falls over his own legs & takes somebody else to court for it. A moron ..........etc.etc.

The worst ills and evils always stem from greed and self interest. Many confuse the concepts of individualism and the rights of the individual. There is a difference and how that difference plays out in the real world can be catastrophic at times.

At it's worst, individualism constrains the rights of other individuals - particularly when we don't have the right sorts of governments. At it's best individualism can be creative and contribute to great advances and improvements in the lives of others.

Many Governments, are as Arjay describes - living entitities in their own rights without accountability or transparency nor are they truly representative or democratic; often hampering the rights of individuals to influence the decisions of 'their' governments.

Agreed. Individual and Pelican.The USA has forces 13 times bigger than it's nearest rival and they are still building new super carriers and expanding their bases around the planet.No one can challenge them and this war on terror is just a scam to bring in draconian laws to subjugate our populations.

Bin laden has been dead since 13 Dec 2001.They have kept his image alive with dummy Osamas and false voice overs.

Australia is now the 13th largest spender on arms on the planet.We too are continuing to ramp up defence spending.The USA is looking for excuses to invade Iran.Israel has between 100 and 200 nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them.Iran has yet to produce one.They are not a threat to anyone.

It is time to get out on the streets and demand that our troops be brought home.The US has on their agenda the use of tactical nuclear weapons since they cannot put the number of soldiers in the field that China can for example.This is the sort of lunatic thinking that will bring about a catastrophe.

We complain about boat people arriving here,yet it is our foreign policy and debt slavery created by the World Bank/IMF that creates poverty and hardship around the planet.

Careful Arjay and others,
You're starting to sound like a bunch of Socialist, whinging, sanctimonious, anti individual and profit, hypocrites. AKA humanists.
I say good on you all.

Seriously though, the biggest problem is, "we the people", not enough of us demand that our pollies and particularly major Political parties actually *represent* us first not the party or capital.

Despite all the above nasty names I and others get called, I note none of the opposers of social responsibilities actually address the criticisms we raise, directly. Obfuscation, diversion, ad hominem etc are the common tactics.
All of which simply confirm what we're saying, greed and power are the causal factors.

Fighting wars is expensive.
Putting aside the bank bailouts, according to anti-globalization activist, Naomi Klein, the projected total cost of the Iraq war is to be at least $3 trillion.
The total Obama (FY2010) defence budget request is $687 billion.
The additional amount estimated for Obama's Afghan surge is $40 billion.

Considering this, the pledge of $1.5 billion (fast track estimate by 2012 - $10 billion) to aid developing countries in implementing clean energy seems rather a paltry effort.

The money spent this decade by the American taxpayer on war would have been sufficient to fund all needed global investments in clean investments in clean energy out to 2030.

Adding to this, the Iraq war was responsible for at least 141 metric tons of carbon dioxide from March 2003 to Dec 2007.
This war emits more CO2 per year than 60% of all countries.
These are currently unrecorded emissions as they are exempt from national reporting requirements.

Clarification:

That should have read, The Iraq war was responsible for 141 million metric tons of CO2 from March 2003 to Dec 2007.

Many countries spend more of their budgets
for military purposes that they do for
education or medical care. Altogether,
the international military establishment
employs over 100 million people.
It's interesting that during the "International
Year of Peace" back in 1986 - world military
expenditure was a record $900 billion.

This represents a colossal diversion of funds
from socially useful goals; for example,
a single hour's worth of these expenditures
according to reports done would suffice to
save through immunization over 120,000 children
around the world who die each day from preventable
infectious diseases.

I think part of the problem today is that our
societies have entered the "nuclear age" with
political institutions inherited from a previous era.
The human population is spread among a series of
sovereign independent states - most of them with their
own armed forces and so there is a built in
potential for warfare whenever any two nations have
conflicting interests.

However, there is hope in the two existing vital
elements for international peace-making that
are currently in place. One is the UN, which
although not perfect by any means - does
provide a Forum for world opinion and a mechanism
for conflict resolution.

The second is a growing
body of internation law that specifies the rights
and obligations that nations have towards one
another particularly with respect to aggression.

Of course the UN is most effective when superpowers
are able to agree on a course of action and mobilize
their blocs to support it. Even so, the organization,
despite its critics, provides an influential Forum
for world opinion, and while it may not always
prevent war, it helps towards making it less
likely.

cont'd ...

Dear Arjay,

Of course you're right - once people no
longer take their world for granted, but instead
understand the social authorship of their lives
and futures, they can become an irresistible
force in history.

The Vietnam was came to an end largely as a
result of the antiwar movement, a social movement
that consisted disproportionately of young people,
including many college students. When the anti-war
movement first challenged the war, it received
little support from politicians or the media, and
its goals seemed hopeless. But the tide of public
opinion gradually began to shift.

In the US 1968 presidential primaries, an antiwar
candidate backed by student volunteers did
unexpectedly well and according to my research -
President Johnson decided not to run for re-election.

From that point on, political debate on the war
focused not on how to stay in it, but on how to
get out of it.

Through collective action therefore, ordinary
people with few resources other than their own
determination had changed a national consensus
for war to a national consensus for peace.

Foxy,
900 billion, crickey we could all retire at age 25 with that sort of dough floating around.

Dear individual,

Yeah, it scares the living daylights
out of me - when you think of the good that
could be done globally with that sort of money.

The average person can expect to give up three
to four years of his or her life working to
foot the arms bill, while ever more people suffer
from illiteracy, ill health and chronic hunger.

I remember the huge impact that
the book, "Imagining The Real," by Dorothy Green
and David Headon made on me a few years ago.

As David Headon pointed out in the book,

" We need new ways of thinking to cope with the
nuclear age. It is here that writers, with
their concern for the human condition and their
special skills with language, can enable us to
imagine the horrific reality of nuclear arms and
nerve us to build an alternative future..."

"Somewhere there must be a place
Called Little Peace
Where men with little humanity
Do not have the power
To make great decision.
Where little fears do not lessen
The so small span
Of our lives,
Where
For once
We can know peace.
Just a little.
To know the taste of it."
(Maurice Strandgard - Reading - La Mama Poetica,
La Mama Theatre, Carlton, Melbourne).

Talk about waste,see this video clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU by Donald Rumsfeld.The Pentagon just before 911 could not account for $2.3 trillion.This is almost two and a half times our GDP.911 conviently distracted attention from this scandle.To this day it has not been addressed.

I think there is monumental corruption involving the US Federal Reserve,members of Congress,CIA and the Pentagon.

Foxy,I think that the UN is part of the problem.This will not end well
unless the masses get involved and get some logic and common sense into policies and decision making.

I did not understand the power plays at the time of Vietnam.In the last 12 months I've learnt a lot.

Dear Arjay,

Ban Ki-moon, the UN Secretary-General
certainly has his critics. He's often
been accused of "frittering away
influence," at a time when "global
leadership is urgently needed."

However, Tim Wirth, President of the
UN Foundation, argues that Ban's critics
miss the point.

The UN Wirth says, is not a vertical institution
but a horizontal one, with 192 nation-states
acting as shareholders. Ban can't tell the UN
members - or even its agencies - what to do.
He has to negotiate and coordinate, find a
consensus.

According to Wirth, Ban manages to do that,
by, "keeping his ego out of the line of fire."

Ban himself expresses pleasure that he's been
able to lead the UN to take climate change
seriously. Discuss the issues involved.
A start has been made. He sees his role in
terms of "bridging the developed and devloping
countries" than in the straighforward language
of leadership.

He is a good consensus builder.

But I agree with you - whether we choose to destroy
our civilization or save it is a collective decision -
and one that hopefully will be made within our
lifetimes. If ways can be found to divert our
energy and resources to the real problems that face
us, including poverty, disease, overpopulation, injustice,
oppression, and the devaastation of our natural
environment - we can not only survive on this planet,
but thrive.

However, we can no longer just simply turn a blind eye.

This is all about securing your current way of life so you can continue to drive your cars, buy your new cheap TV's, build your 30 square homes, pay your protection money (taxes). I's sad I know, but the whole system is stuffed and won't change till we nearly obliterate ourselves. No one is going to complain while they can watch from the safety of their lounge rooms on their big plasma screens, and they certainly won't complain if they even get a wiff it will cost them in anyway.

So I guess you need to ask yourselves, would you be willing to give up your current way of life so that the world can have peace? Because you know deep down there's not enough of everything to go around in this world, there's simply too many of us!

Rawmustard.Nothing is ever that simple.We lost a golden opportunity post WW2 to bring prosperity to all pople on the planet.When living standards rise so the birth rates fall.The money spent on arms could have been spent on education.

The main problem as I see it is the power of the Global Reserve Banks.They create money from nothing and today are all powerful.They determine who the next US president will be.They create environments for war since they profit by loaning Govts money for weapons and money for reconstruction.We have seen this in Iraq.Obama is not the most powerful person in the USA.Ben Bernanke is,since the cartel of banks he represents can create a $ trillion legally in their computers.

If you want to know where the next US war will be,follow the money trail.They are in Afghanistan for two reasons,one is the necessity for oil and gas piplines from Turkmenistan through Pakistan to the ocean,the other was to get the opium crops going which the Taliban had stopped.90% of the world's heroine comes from this area.Now the locals can grow drugs,and buy arms from the likes of Halliburton to kill US and Aust troops.Our Govt has to borrow from the international banksters to fund our war effort.We the tax payer pick up the tab and thus don't have enough money for infrastructure.

It is all about power and profits.The Taliban however don't get paid much for their cash crop.It is the middlemen who make 1000% profits.

the obvious solution to stop men fighting each other is to empower women.
works policing george street sydney saturday nights.
starts with a republic with a women's legislature.

We've discussed this furphy before, Arjay, and it does you no credit to repeat it yet again.

>>Pentagon just before 911 could not account for $2.3 trillion.This is almost two and a half times our GDP.911 conviently distracted attention from this scandle.To this day it has not been addressed.<<

As you know very well, Rumsfeld was complaining about the inability of the different accounting systems to talk to each other.

"Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible."

Here's the actual speech itself, so that you can read it and understand it.

http://www.defense.gov/Speeches/Speech.aspx?SpeechID=430

The dollars have not gone missing, as you try to suggest. And the problem is being addressed.

"We have committed $100 million for financial modernization, and we're establishing a Defense Business Board to tap outside expertise as we move to improve the department's business practices."

It all stems, of course, from your lack of understanding about what money is, and what it does.

individual shares a little of your fiscal blindness

>>900 billion, crickey we could all retire at age 25 with that sort of dough floating around.<<

That $900 billion didn't disappear either.

All of that money went into normal businesses. It directly paid the wages of many people and bought the raw material from the mines that dig up the metal. The employees then spent that money in the economy that keeps businesses alive, right down to the corner shop where they buy their milk.

Money has value when it moves, none when it stands still.

Pericles what was Jim Minnery the defence account told to back off in the pursuit of a missing $300 million? He was re-assigned because he was too honest.What sort of an accounting system cannot account for $2.3 trillion? You just cannot take the words of bureaucrats that the money is somewhere in their accounts.

The US Federal Res refuses to tell the tax payer to whom they have loaned $ trillions and the tax payer is in debt for this money.This is why Ron Paul is wanting them audited.

Arjay,

Pericles, is correct it was about accounting systems. There was plenty of independent sources that confirmed that at the time. Accounting methods too can add to the dysfunction between entities.

I wouldn't be surprised to find $300 million being squirreled away on politically sensitive payments and the accountant in question wouldn't be told. However, to interpret that as justification for a conspiracy involving $3.2 trillion, part of which was to wipe out the twin towers and building 7 is ludicrous.

In fact mega conspiracies are the products of over fertile imaginations and * a total lack of understanding * of human psychology and knowledge of practicalities. A secret of that magnitude would have to involve too many weak links and by definition not have enough beneficiaries to be sustained.

The whole economic system (magic pudding)and AGW on the other hand are simply denial because too many beneficiaries of the status quo.

The fact that deniers leap on conspiracy theories is 99 out of 100 the people just don't want to believe the facts because they have some emotional reason not to i.e. Elvis is alive, conspiracy theories.

John Lennon was a bit of a drama queen back then [though his heart was in right place]. As we see here he needs to be prompted by Yoko, but the theme of his message is the one from his good mate Donovan, who in turn got it from Buffy Saint Marie, an Amer Indian.

song was Universal Soldier, ie saying same as FF Cuppola said in Apoc Now, ie just as now it is the blood thirsty American TV [voters] that decide that we must have wars [or even "things" like Vietnam that were not actually declared wars]. Like FFC does that great cameo as cameraman as Napalm King Kilgore incinerates the kiddies - "just go past like you're fighting, don't look at the camera".

but here is the whole story

[will send this first and look for link]

so what did Washing do? Well they commissioned Hollywood to make a "BlockBuster" Universal Soldier, ie soldiers with prongs sticking out of head - much more to taste of people

here is Buffy, explanation and song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGWsGyNsw00

Examinater.Building 7 came down in 6.5sec. 186 m tall.It reached an maximum speed in excess of 200 kph.For 3 sec it came down at virtual freefall.It is impossible for this to happen if the upper floors are crushing the lower floors.

I've met Dr Frank Legge, he and an international team of scientists led by Prof Niels Harrit have found conclusive proof that nano -thermite a highly sophistocated explosive known only to the US military to present in both the dust and rubble of the towers and building 7.

I also met recently a physics Professor, Steven Jones of and the evidence damning.This is forensic science unlike climate science is very precise.It is ether right or wrong.If you cared to go to this site http://www.ae911truth.org/ you will see volumes of conclusive evidence from nearly 1000 architects and engineers who attest to these facts.Many won't join since it will impact adversely on their careers.

Recently John Bursill(rep for aetruth in Aust), an aeronautical engineer saw Brian Wilshire of 2GB and the evidence was totally convincing to him, but it was too hot for 2GB.You will have noticed recently articles in the Sydney Morning Herald in which Jan Utzon ,son of Jorn Utzon has joined the movement in requesting that new enquiry be instigated into 911.

These people are not a bunch of crackpot wackos.They are people of
intellect, integrity and courage who know the truth.There are millions of people around the planet who know the truth but our media is extremely controlled here.That is why we have been protesting outside the ABC.Their workers have been instructed not to take our literature because the truth is causing unrest.

Many ask how they logistically keep this a secret.Well they kept the Manhatton Project secret which gave us the nuclear bomb.

Clutching at straws again, I see, Arjay.

>>Jan Utzon ,son of Jorn Utzon has joined the movement in requesting that new enquiry be instigated into 911. These people are not a bunch of crackpot wackos.They are people of intellect, integrity and courage who know the truth<<

Not necessarily.

They might simply be gullible people who will sign anything after a few beers in a Manly hotel. Let's face it, we've all been there...

"Mr Utzon said he had become interested in exploring theories about the attacks after staying at a Manly hotel whose owner introduced him to some websites. The hotel owner encouraged him to sign Mr Gage's online petition, which he did. However, he had not read any of the official reports and therefore did not regard himself as well informed."

http://www.smh.com.au/world/utzons-son-signs-up-for-september-11-conspiracy-theory-20091124-jhf7.html

Yes, he's famous, thanks to his illustrious father.

But his signing the petition didn't exactly take "intellect, integrity and courage", did it?

Nor was he at all representative of people who "know the truth", was he, given the fact that he based his signature on information from "some websites" (and we all know which ones they would have been, don't we?), and didn't bother to look any further.

I did rather like the journalist's description.

"As conspiracy theories go, it is up there with the CIA assassination of president John Kennedy and the faked moon landings."

Do you happen to have a view on either of these two, Arjay?

I would imagine that the vast majority of signatories "joined" in a similarly uninformed fashion to Utzon.

Probably after a few beers, too. That's when these events suddenly become crystal clear, isn't it?

I think it's called the "VB moment".

Pericles,have you ever bothered to look at the evidence? Dr Frank Legge[ Aust],Prof Neils Harritt and 7 other scientists have found conclusive eveidence of nano-thermite known only to the US military.The total volume of evidence is enormous and conclusive.You have other agendas which are not about learning the truth.All you can do is ad hominem attacks to hide your bias.If you view Blueprint for Truth you will see the scientific method applied to reveal a disgusting reality that must be defeated. http://www.ae911truth.org/

How would you stop the USA from expanding their war fronts and placing us in more peril or do you see their wars as being just? No weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.Bin laden has been dead for years.Vietnam was a lie and so is Afghanistan.It is all about profit for the arms dealers,oil companies and the banks who finance them.

Sheesh Arjay, and there was silly old me, thinking that preventing
the Taliban from once again running Afghanistan, was actually a
good thing for the Afghan people. Clearly you don't agree.

People like Mullah Omar and Zawahiri who now runs Al Queda, really
do love you!

Of course I have Arjay.

>>Pericles,have you ever bothered to look at the evidence?<<

And a bigger collection of half-baked theories, based on wild assumptions, backed up by the need for collusion on a massive scale, I have yet to see.

Every single "claim" has been exposed as nothing more than wild speculation.

The only mystery that remains is "why"?. Why do these people insist upon making idiots of themselves?

The only possible answer can be that they feed off the credulity of all the Arjays of this world, for their five minutes of "fame".

>>Many ask how they logistically keep this a secret.Well they kept the Manhatton Project secret which gave us the nuclear bomb<<

If you cannot discern any difference between a top-secret scientific project conducted by a small, close-knit team of scientists and their supervisors, and a scheme that would need to be undertaken by literally hundreds of people from different walks of life, over a number of months, and in broad daylight, then there is no wonder that you can be sucked in by the tall tales you find on the internet.

>>You have other agendas which are not about learning the truth.All you can do is ad hominem attacks to hide your bias.<<

The only "other agenda" that I have is a purely humane one. I hate to see people - even people whom I have never met, and am unlikely ever to meet - throw away their lives on such garbage.

Admit it, Arjay. Conspiracy theories are your hobby.

And they seem to be rapidly approaching obsession. If they haven't already reached that stage.

One day you'll wake up to the fact that you have been chasing shadows all your life, and regret every single minute you spent doing so.

I have to say that this doesn't actually keep me awake at night, because I am a firm believer that everyone should be allowed to choose their own way through life.

But, apart from my instinctive knee-jerk tendency to shout "rubbish!", when I read rubbish, it is the only "other agenda" that I have.

Both the towers and more particularly building 7 came down at the free fall speed of gravity.If the kinetic energy of the upper stories above the planes was being used to crush the lower stories,how were freefall speeds attained? A man sky diving reaches a maximum speed of 200 kph.Both the towers and WTC 7 reached speeds in excess of this.My theory is that the explosives created a vacuum which made this possible,but according the the laws of physics,for every re-action there is an equal and opposite re-action.So as the explosions created a vacuum they also created upward forces that should to a large degree cancel this out.I presented this theory to the engineers and the jury is still out. What do you think?

If you view the new video evidence of the towers you will see pulverisation of the floors way below the main collapse zone and squibs or lesser explosions lower. North tower Prof David Chandler physicist http://www.youtube.com?v=dtx_GcFCs6c&ferature=related

There is no evidence of layered collapse as suggested by the official theory ie no pan caked floors.Girders weighing many tonnes were projected horizontally over 200m. Human bone fragments small as a coin on the top of buildings.

We have photographic evidence of molten steel that according to workers flowed like lava.Steel melts at twice the the optimum temp of jet fuel,yet we have vast evidence of molten steel.

Then we have the scientific evidence of Prof Niels Harrit and his team of 8 scientists with evidence of nano-thermite known only to the US military.This is forensic science with no grey areas of doubt.Why does not the ABC and our corp media not try to disprove these realities?

Pericles if you want to live up to your pseudonym,go to http://www.aetruth.org/ and post on OLO your logical proof of their flawed assertions.

I think you are both intellectually dishonest and gutless.Prove me wrong.

The evidence is overwhelming,yet Pericles deniesn the reality.

You really don't get it, do you Arjay.

>>Both the towers and more particularly building 7 came down at the free fall speed of gravity<<

Every single statement you make about the WTC attack is speculative, including this one.

>>My theory is that the explosives created a vacuum which made this possible,but according the the laws of physics,for every re-action there is an equal and opposite re-action.So as the explosions created a vacuum they also created upward forces that should to a large degree cancel this out.I presented this theory to the engineers and the jury is still out. What do you think?<<

What do I think?

I think that you have a fertile imagination, that what I think. But your "theory" needs a little more work.

>>the explosives created a vacuum<<

In what circumstances does an explosion create a vacuum?

I actually feel quite bad asking the question, because there isn't a vestige of a chance that you could answer it coherently.

>>as the explosions created a vacuum they also created upward forces<<

"Upward forces", Arjay?

How did they achieve this? Why were they not "downward forces"? Or even "lateral forces"?

>>forces that should to a large degree cancel this [vacuum} out.<<

So, have I got this right?

You have i) an explosion that ii) creates a vacuum, then iii) creates an upward force that iv) cancel each other out?

On the face of it, such a sequence of events would cause very little damage indeed, would they not?

>>I presented this theory to the engineers and the jury is still out.<<

I doubt they will return a verdict until they are able to keep a straight face while delivering it.

>>Pericles... post on OLO your logical proof of their flawed assertions.<<

I don't need to prove (or even disprove) anyone's flawed assertions, Arjay. Merely to point out that they are fatally flawed is sufficient.

You still haven't explained, by the way, how the vast amount of activity that would have been required to support your fantasy was able to be kept secret.

Arjay, whilst you are busy dreaming up new conspiracy theories,
you are going to have to come up with another one, to replace
the old "pipeline through Afghanistan" one, which is around
10 years old.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/KL24Ag04.html

gives a more up to date account as to what is going on with all
that energy. Fact it the Chinese have not been sleeping and in
fact have built pipelines to China instead. Not only that, they
are majorly investing in Kazaksthan oil and gas production,
all energy for China.

So its back to the drawing board Arjay :)

.

Rise to the challenge Pericles.Perhaps you and Yabby could find some experts and look at "Blue Print for Truth" http://www.ae91truth.org/
and demolish their logic and facts item by item.

You see Yabby and Pericles,if I think that an assertion is nonsense,I pay little notice to it and give it no creedence.Both of you have consistantly dogged my postings over the last 12 months which shows that it is a threat to either your agendas,or those to whom you pay homage.

So again put up or shut up.Disprove what the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth have discovered.Take a copy of their CD to the Physics Dept of Sydney Uni and they might be able to assist you.Perhaps also send and email to Physics Prof Steven Jones whom I met recently.

Perhaps you and Yabby can reverse all notions of logic.War can be peace,chaos be order, and more work make the debt slaves free.

NB The theory of the explosives creating a vacuum thus effecting speeds greater than freefall,is solely mine and has no basis in fact.The other revelations of ae911truth do have revelations based in fact and verifiable scientific evidence.

I await your posting on OLO with keen interest,but won't hold my breath.

By the way Yabby the pipeline is from Turkmenistan not Kazakhstan.We know the Chinese are in Kazakhstan.You are getting your stans mixed up.The US is aggravating both China and Iran in the hope of creating conflict to deflect attention from domestic woes.

The US has developed a new re-usable missile that can reach any place on the planet within an hour.They are considering using limited ,tactical,nuclear weapons.They are 13 times more powerful than their nearest rival Russia.How can Iran possible be a threat to anyone?

The corporate,lunatic, egocentric maniacs now have power over both Obama and Congress.They don't know the meaning of humility,measured responses,common sense,or logical outcomes.They are consumed by their own egos and self importance.This is what makes them so dangerous not only to themselves,but also for the rest of humanity.

They are rapidly painting themselves into a corner of which they cannot extricate themselves.

Classic, Arjay.

>>The US has developed a new re-usable missile that can reach any place on the planet within an hour.<<

Errr... "re-usable", Arjay? That's cute.

"Please Mr Ahmadinejad, can we have our missile back so we can send it again?"

Absolutely hilarious.

Although, it has to be said, it is par for the course in Arjay-land.

>>The theory of the explosives creating a vacuum thus effecting speeds greater than freefall,is solely mine and has no basis in fact.<<

Yep, you got that right. No basis in dreamland either, really.

But doesn't it occur to you that perhaps all the theories that have been put forward under the conspiracy banner are equally far-fetched?

I have absolutely no intention of attempting to prove a negative, which is essentially what you are asking.

>>...find some experts and... demolish their logic and facts item by item<<

There is no logic involved, merely speculation. And the "facts" that you claim exist, are also based upon an extraordinary number of assumptions that themselves render them non-factual.

One of the inescapable assumptions that you make, is that it was possible to hide the preparations that were essential in order for your theory to hold up.

May I suggest that you take a piece of paper (no web sites or YouTube videos necessary) and write down the actions needed to plant explosives, to set them off, and then to fake - and maintain - the story that went around the world in seconds.

If you were to do this small exercise, you would quickly realize that the logistics themselves would have exceeded every organizational achievement known to man, by several orders of magnitude.

I know you won't do this, of course, because you much prefer fantasy to reality. And that is entirely your prerogative.

But it is simply silly to assert that...

>>you have consistantly dogged my postings... which shows that it is a threat to either your agendas,or those to whom you pay homage.<<

Nothing so complicated, I'm afraid.

In the same way that conspiracy theories are your hobby, poking holes in them is mine.

*How can Iran possible be a threat to anyone?*

You still don't get it Arjay. If a nutcase Govt like Iran has
the bomb, then Saudi Arabia will want the bomb, then Egypt,
then Syria, then Turkey, etc. Sunni and Shia Muslims don't
exactly get on too well.

If you think that the world will be a safer place, if every
tinpot country with a dictator head, has one or two nuclear
weapons handy, then you are kidding yourself. For the more
that have it, the more chances that one of them will use it.

At that point it really doesen't matter, the damage will be
done.

If you reread the details about oil and gas out of the Stans,
you'll see that the Chinese are sucking up the lot, not just
from one country.

Hey Arjay, what happened to your explanation?

>>The US has developed a new re-usable missile that can reach any place on the planet within an hour.<<

Don't we even get a URL for this?

I'm intrigued by the size of the elastic band they would need.

Is it perhaps the same one they used to place explosives in the WTC?

Ready. Aim. Fire!

Pyyyonnnngg!