CJ Morgan

Yes I do know that in some cultures people are "betrothed" and the marriage is only consummated later. There is after all the famous case of 6 year old Aisha and a certain seventh century Arabian psychopath. The psychopath waited until Aisha was 9 – a year older than Daisy at the time of her removal – before consummating the marriage.

Maybe Daisy would also have had a year's grace before being "mated". And maybe not.

But then maybe you and other posters here belong to the "she knew what was expected of her" school of thought.

See:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/dark-side-of-justice/story-0-1111119091152

Quote:

'Justice John Gallop sentenced Jamilmira to just one day in jail, saying the 15-year-old "knew what was expected of her" and her rapist was merely "exercising his conjugal rights in traditional society".'

However, as I made clear from my first post, I am not relying on what may or may not have been the motives of officials from decades ago. I am relying on the absence of law suits in the here and now.

The Trevorrow case that Foxy brought to our attention merely reinforces my scepticism. Following on the heels of that precedent why aren't entrepreneurial personal injury lawyers out there recruiting candidates for a class action suit? Could it be that there just aren’t many candidates?

I also stick to my point that focussing on a "stolen generation", safely in the PAST, is a cop-out to avoid addressing the hideous PRESENT. The life expectancy of Australian Aborigines is roughly on a par with Uzbekistan.

Now there is a REAL scandal in the here and now! There's no disputing that fact.

not sure if its sad..or other stupidity steven..but your twisting facts..from Daisy..to a link on Jamilmira..throwing in mahamoud for good measure

THIS is DISGUSTING..BELOW SHOWS THE EXTENT..some..ARE PREPARED TO GO TO TO PROTECT..FELLOW JEWISH SEX OFFENDERS AND MURDERERS.

Jewish officials..in a major Italian news agency..tried to cover the story up,..but were circumvented..by Italian news reporters,..who broadcast scenes..from the films/live..at prime time

Jewish officials..then fired the executives
responsible,..claiming they were spreading.."blood libel."..what was the coverup about?

Rome, Italy..Italian and Russian police,..working together,..broke up a ring of Jewish gangsters who had been involved in the manufacture of child/rape and snuff pornography.

http://www.ety.com/HRP/jewishstudies/snuffporn.htm

Three Russian Jews..and eight Italian Jews were arrested after police..discovered they had been kidnapping non-Jewish children between the ages of two and five years from Russian orphanages, raping the children, and then murdering them on film.

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.russian/msg/568283c7f2759d33?pli=1

Throughout history,..various groups have accused sects of Jews of ritually murdering small children...One such account,..that of Hugh of Lincoln,..led to the expulsion of all Jews from Britain in the 13th Century.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1569802351/103-1175775-5239804?v=gla...

http://www.counterpunch.org/brenner05252005.html

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/1553622.php

http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/index.htm

Such accounts..have generally been discounted,..but are so widespread that Jewish/organizations..have developed a name for them.."blood libel."

Though AP and Reuters..both ran stories on the episode,..US media
conglomerates..refused to carry the story on television news,..again saying..the story would prejudice Americans against Jews.

Jewish gangsters..in Russia have become increasingly linked to traffic in.."white slaves"..and prostitutes..through Israel,..according to a recent report..in the Jerusalem Post.

Israel..turns an official blind eye..to forced prostitution,..and does not punish Israeli citizens..who choose to own.."sex slaves" as long as..the slaves are foreign and non-Jews.

IT SEEMS OBVIOUS THAT WITH THE ADHERENCE AND LOYALTY HE/SHE
HAS TO FELLOW JEWS,..HE/SHE CANNOT POSSIBLY ASSIST NON JEWS IF THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

AND WILL COVER UP MISTAKES,..CRIMINALITY AND PERVERSIONS IN ANY WAY THEY CAN..SIMPLY BECAUSE..THAT PERSON IS A JEW....meaning some love to cast stones...others throw them back

CHECK THE,..Talmud

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6657600254881054584&hl=en

CHECK THE WHOLE HOLOHOAXING BUNCH.

http://images.google.co.id/images?hl=id&um=1&sa=1&q=%2251+documents%2...

http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/009_jam.html

CHECK THE MORALITY..OF THIS GROUP IN THE RUNNING OF ISRAEL..WHERE BECAUSE OF..THE COMPLETE LAWLESSNESS ..0F THE REGIME FOR NONJEWS..(THAT ALSO MEANS CHRISTIANS),..THE PLACE IS A PERVERTS PARADIS

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/3571/jrm1mk6.gi

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=gd&q=zionist+baby+rape+ritual&hl=en-GB&rls=MEDA,MEDA:2008-36,MEDA:en-GB

Steven's dug himself into a bit of a hole here, but he certainly won't get out of it by citing Andrew Bolt as an authority on Aboriginal culture. Who's next - Pauline Hanson?

I love the segue into his more usual bigoted obsession with Islam. To paraphrase someone, you can take the boy out of racist South Africa, but you can't take the ingrained racist bigotry out of the boy.

Does anybody believe steven when he claims to be concerned about the welfare of contemporary Aboriginal people?

OUG's 'contributions' to this thread are just weird - who'd a thunk that he's an Antisemitic holocaust denier on top of being an illiterate frootloop?

I'm outta here - too much hatred and ranting for this thread to be rescued, methinks.

CJ Morgan as usual distorts my posts.

I was not "quoting Andrew Bolt as an authority on Aboriginal culture".

I was quoting a news story that happened to appear in his column. If readers want another source here it is from the HREOC website.

http://www.hreoc.gov.au/about/media/speeches/sex_discrim/violence_against_women.html

Quote:

'...the recent case of the rape of a 14 year old year girl in the Northern Territory. In that case the excuse was customary law and "she knew what was expected of her".'

Most posters here do seem to belong to the "she knew what was expected of her" school of thought.

Despite much vituperation I have seen nothing that indicates I am wrong to be sceptical of the existence of a stolen generation – as opposed to stolen individuals

I don’t much like Andrew Bolt. He's a rabblerouser.

But I've never seen him tell an outright porkie. Here's what he alleges transpired during an interview with Lowitja O’Donoghue, a patron of the "Stolen Generations Alliance".

Quote:

(My father) didn’t want to be straddled with five kids,” the former Australian of the Year said, sobbing. “I haven’t forgiven him…

“I don’t like the word ‘stolen’ and it’s perhaps true that I’ve used the word loosely at times… I would see myself as a removed child, and not necessarily stolen.”

Asked whether it would be better to state clearly that she wasn’t a member of the stolen generation, Dr O’Donoghue said: “I am prepared to make that concession.”

End quote

See: http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/odonoghue_now_stolen_again/

Publicly, as Bolt points out, O’Donoghue still claims to have been stolen.

So Bolt, one of the most widely read pundits in Australian journalism, accuses O’Donoghue, an iconic symbol of the "stolen generation", of hypocrisy or worse. This is clearly defamatory.

Is Bolt telling the truth on this one?

I did not include this in my original post because I don’t like quoting Bolt unless there is some corroboration.

However it seems he is telling the truth. See:

http://www.law4u.com.au/lil/ls_removed.html

O’Donoghue did indeed concede she was "removed" not "stolen" but, like the bible and the koran, her words require careful "exegesis" – in this case by the trained legal mind of Geoffrey Winn.

However, as Winn is forced to concede, it is possible that in 1934 O’Donoghue's "white father might have given her and her four sisters and brother to the missionary-run Colebrook Home in South Australia, with her Aboriginal mother's POSSIBLY uninformed consent" (My capitalisation)

Winn then applies 2001 legal notions of "informed consent" to deduce that O’Donoghue was indeed (possibly?) stolen!

Possibly she was in some sense "stolen". I suppose that in the end it depends on how you define stolen.

Dear Steven,

I think that this entire business is rather sad.
Australian deniers not only of the Tasmanian
genocide but the cases of the "Stolen Generation,"
attempt to revise downward the death toll of
massacres and numbers of the stolen generation,
or claim that they were fabricated altogether.

These position mirror and re-inforce that of the
deniers of the Holocaust, like David Irving,
who claims in part that he's only questioning the numbers.

In reality, genocide is not a matter of numbers.

And, as stated in other posts, today - there is
so much material in State, National, and Local
Libraries available for anyone interested in
doing serious research on the topic.