The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > General Discussion > Who has the power?

Who has the power?

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. Page 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. All
RobP “Give it a rest, Col. I'm heartily sick of”

Proving, once again that “censorship” is the first weapon in the arsenal of repression used by the socialist swill


Your health (heartily sick) and welfare are none of my concern RobP,

especially when I recall your “concern” for my health was emphasised by you previously suggesting I contract cancer (presumably as a favour to yourself).

But you have no real reason for concern RobP.. I was not quoting Margaret Thatcher. I was quoting Lenin.

Unlike your "heartily sick" demand for silence, I prefer to give all opinions an airing…

just blame my libertarian values system…


So I am happy to quote from the left and the right of politics


and I will "balance" those views by quoting from both:


Ladies first (and the swill probably thought chivalry was dead):

So dearest Margaret

"Individualism has come in for an enormous amount of criticism over the years. It still does. It is widely assumed to be synonymous with selfishness...But the main reason why so many people in power have always disliked individualism is because it is individualists who are ever keenest to prevent the abuse of authority."

(by the elites)

Compared that thought to the thoughts of comrade Lenin

“It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed.”

And uncle Joe (Stalin)

“It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”


So, RobP is “heartily sick”


I would observe.. he would likely be even termiinally sick under Lenin and dead under Stalin.


While the “left” invent many a pretence to grand designs and edifices of “socialist glory”,

they sub-contract to the “right” to actually build them.


"Libertarian Capitalism" generates the wealth;


whilst "Socialism/Communism/Collectivism" merely shares out the poverty
(- and shares it unequally and badly, if you recall the millions who died under Lenin and Stalins deliberate policies and watchful eyes).

Have a nic e day RobP
Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 10:26:50 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
So the big dog has done a big piss on the carpet. Whoopee doo, Col. (Note the long drawn-out post, that makes Col's view look more big and imposing than it actually is - actually an old trick to win the battle before it's actually been fought.)

There you go again tarring all your opponents with the same brush.

Here's something to consider, you so-called libertarian. Libertarianism is independent of scale - that is, it doesn't matter if you are big or little; everyone's the same. Now let's read between the lines and look at the pig swill innuendo you are serving up on every single thread you write to. It boils done to: "if you're a big dog like us, libertarianism rules supreme. However, if you're a little guy, then you can have a few crumbs off the table ... when we get around to it of course".

I'll start giving you some credit, you tosser (in the metaphorical sense of course), when you start acknowledging that fact. As it is now, you're acting as a front man for those doing well. Get it yet?

You, whether you know it or not, are a patronising so-and-so. Just to show you are a cherrypicker of other people's posts, I also said I would treat the cancer comment as a joke if you would. Obviously, you are putting your hardline stance above all else including an offer to bury the hatchet. OK, so be it. In light of your comment, I couldn't give a toss about your health either. Consider the sentiment reciprocated.

If you like Margaret Thatcher so much why don't you go back to Britain and stand for Parliament. Get off your backside and put yourself to use where it's needed. The last thing we need here in Australia is "dearest" Margaret's industrial-strength brand of thinking. Margaret's high-sounding rhetoric, whilst strictly correct, could only come out of the mouth of an aloof soul who was out of touch with the ordinary person (as opposed to socialist).

You treat my view with contempt, I reciprocate.

Have a nice day.
Posted by RobP, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:40:25 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
RobP

Go to the naughty corner! and write out ten times "I must neither expect Colonel Bluster's opinions to be any more than prejudice, nor inflict inhuman mental suffering on lesser nations".

Ok, I'll go to mine with hand on head. ;-)
Posted by examinator, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 3:08:45 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
If my dog pees on the carpet she gets a kick in the bum, read examinators post please Col.
I can not support the idea leaders lead in the wrong direction.
Ego can often look far worse than it is good leaders have egos but it is ok by me.
I learn however something every day, yesterday my lesson was clear, you do not know a man, truly, until you see how he handles power.
Some make a new enemy every day, the wise make a new Friend.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 4:32:23 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear Belly,

I recently read a very interesting article
in Time magazine (July 20, 2009 issue)
on "Leadership,"
entitled, "Who needs Charisma?"

I'm going to cut and paste from it -
so bear with me:

It seems that Americans, since JFK,
prefer leaders to be handsome or heroic,
preferably with a thatch of dark hair and
a trim waistline. It's therefore not
surprising that two of the foreign
leaders who've made an impression in the
US were young Tony Blair and French President
Nicolas Sarkozy (who to add to the JFK meme -
had the extra advantage of a fashion-plate wife).

Australia has a higher proportion of naturally
rugged men than any other country on earth,
but combined, its two most recent Prime
Ministers, John Howard and Kevin Rudd, have the
sex appeal of church mice. Who cares?
Both have made tough calls - Howard to back
the US through thick and thin after 9/11.
Rudd to apologise for the treatment of
Australia's Aborigines, and other issues.

Besides a certain homely style can make your
adversaries underestimate you. Look at German
Chancellor Angela Merkel - who may look like
a typical hausfrau - but don't cross her.
"She's ruthless," says a political insider in
Berlin. "She doesn't just sideline her opponents,
she destroys them."

When it comes to Leaders and how they handle
power?

Well, when leaders understand the nature of their
followers, they can get away with an awful lot.
For example, Italians forgive Prime Minister
Silvio Berlusconi's lapses in judgement because
they feel he's "one of them."

In the 1980s, Germans used to make fun of their
Chancellor for his thick Rhineland accent and
stumbling speeches. But when more elegant
and eloquent statesmen were dithering after the
fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989, Kohl seized
the moment. He propelled East and West Germany to
unification within a year, while others thought
that unification if it happened at all, was a
distant prospect. It was Kohl's decisiveness that
made him a leader, not his honeyed tone.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 6:38:49 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
RobP “you're acting as a front man for those doing well.”

I am acting in my own best interests

Am I doing well?

You bet your sweet arse I am

Why?

Because I plan and anticipate what is going to happen next and look for opportunities including the counter-cyclical.

You could do the same but you are probably either too thick or prefer to spend your time bending your beer arm with your cloth-capped, cloggie, leftie mates, singing "the internationale", sitting around waiting for someone to announce the next "workers revolution".


“I also said I would treat the cancer comment as a joke if you would.”


Sorry, my wife had a radical hysterectomy in 2008, lost 11 lymph nodes, underwent extensive courses of both chemo and radiation treatment to prevent the spread of ovarian and cervical cancer. She dealt with all that before she met me and is now in remission.

The notion of “treating cancer as a joke”

Leaves me cold and devoid of any feelings of laughter.

Obviously, what makes you laugh is something which the vast majority of people would describe as "very, very sick"

“Get off your backside and put yourself to use where it's needed.”

Well with ignorant ding-bats like you I am obviously needed here… to educate.. but I must admit with you and the rest of the swill who venture on to this site…

it is literally like "casting pearls before swine”

“You treat my view with contempt, I reciprocate.”

Only because, as your cancer comments illustrate:

Your “View” is “Contemptible”


I see the pontificator is being his usual facile self


Belly “read examinators post please Col.”

I have and made appropriate response -

see my comment immediately above my quote of your "erudite input" to the debate (Ha Ha Ha)
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:50:51 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. Page 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy