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If you want to stop poverty,then take the power of money creation away from the private banks.It is they who create inflation hence the depreciation of our money.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 5 December 2009 12:21:42 AM
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I often find my self in trouble for it, but I like America and Americans.
Not the Tomas fromtacoma America, not the Fox channel one.
Not the one that says poor are poor because they want to be.
I love the America that spent big money to rebuild other country's after ww2.
That still sends its youth, not armed with weapons but help to other country's.
I understand different times different people but cringe at the America /Australia that did so much harm to its native people.
But cringe too at the jingoism , blindness, my country right or wrong, defend at all costs, even from truth from Americans like tomasfrom Tacoma.
Yes I know, I understand, without America and its dead or dieing soldiers we may be slaves.
A truly great country, like ANY other it has some awful people does it not tom?
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 5 December 2009 4:24:09 AM
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The truth is there has always been too much poverty in the US. That is the truth. It is so very easy to check via statistics and pure numbers.

The reason we need to acknowledge this is because we are headed down the same path.

It has nothing to do with the US. The poor American has been brainwashed to believe they are still better off than living in any other country. As they cannot afford to visit any other country they never learn the truth.
Posted by TheMissus, Saturday, 5 December 2009 8:41:11 AM
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@ Thomas

Your comparison of US and AU debt is flawed. AU debt includes Medicare and Social Security obligations and US debt does not! Let me make that clearer for you. The federal responsibility for it healthcare funding, age and disability pensions do not form a part of the US debt declared, even though healthcare and social security are indeed debts! Therefore, the per person debt comparison you have shown is wrong.

I am also uncomfortable with your stereotypical treatment of Aboriginals as a collective welfare case, when in fact they are not. You may not like to hear this, but most, and by that I mean the majority, of Aboriginals are getting on with their lives as productive and involved citizens. It is the few, for complex reasons, that let down the many within Aboriginal communities. And whilst it is true that a comparison between mainstream and aboriginal culture would see distorted statistical variants that do not favor the Aboriginals, it is unreasonable from such a comparison to stereotype all Aboriginals into that statistical mould.

Finally, there is nothing wrong with putting US black poverty into the spotlight as has been done with the opening post. Australians may learn something from the exploration of the subject. There may be cultural similes we can make. But whilst you brow beat the person who wants a discussion on this matter whilst hand wringing over the aboriginals, you shut your eyes to the deeper issues of power and poverty in general.
Posted by Monkey Magic, Saturday, 5 December 2009 9:41:28 AM
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OH pluueze, don’t tell me you haven’t checked your sources accuracy thinker2
“Originally I was informed of the stat I was quoting in a recent A.B.C or S.B.S. program of the situation in Louisiana. I
Hope it correct”
You only hope it correct? Quoting from memory no doubt.
Damn and I sooo sure you were right. (That’s me being facetious in case you need it spelt out.)
Themissus
And? I bet I have spent more time in ozz than you have totally OS.
Yabby you’re so full of it, it’s beginning to reek,
Wow I am impressed that means 5 trip to the USA and lived there how long and gone to NEARLY all the places mentioned, but of course you know someone that has. Sure you do!
Personally, and this is just my opinion of course, I would be too embarrassed to backup such absolute garbage re thinker s article, without joking of course.
And now for belly
You make yappy sound positively intelligent. Perhaps you might point out my jingoism if you really know what that means.
Blindness, my country right or wrong, defends at all costs, even from truth, not the Fox channel one.
Not the one that says poor is poor because they want to be.
I am an Australian by birth and don’t believe I have stated anywhere the USA is anywhere near perfect, as you mistakenly think Australia is. Yet we have the blind faith brigade led by ignorance fed BS, that people like you proliferate and the pig ignorant lap up.
Now don’t tell me you’ve been to the USA also, as your well traveled comrades so enthusiastically quote. The problem is here you couldn’t tell a jingoist from a jingle.
Btw I am still waiting for that copy of your constitution, but don’t worry about the bill of rights its laying somewhere with the referendum on democracy results no doubt.
Posted by thomasfromtacoma, Saturday, 5 December 2009 2:26:18 PM
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Examinator, Reuters is a news organization; you know the ones that SELL the story. Oh it’s got to be true cos I read it on Reuters! Duh!
Have you been to Port Augusta or Goodiwindi in your monumental worldly travels? I doubt it; otherwise you would have seen the utter prejudice and disdain that Australians hold the Aboriginal.
Bigotry I think so!
And I doubt there’s one of you that can’t quote some such stat about American Africans but I don’t see anyone jumping to the defense of the Australian Aborigine. Strange that huh?
Just of course conveniently forgetting you took their country away from them around the time the USA as fighting or the African Americas rights. e.g. The best most arable land and now the most productive mineral wealth. And before you throw in the American Indian argument you better check they’re not part of the “now infamous 45% that is below the poverty level”.
Have you by any chance seen the $5 million worth of temporary accommodation the NT has locked up? I have!
So much for your egalitarian ideals, or should I say the pathetic attitude to the Australian Aboriginals plight.
But of course that’s not your fault it’s the Nazis running the show right?
So tell me where the oranges are lemons with the aboriginal problems and the ABYSMAL conditions they endure, in Australia, compared to the so called poverty line that African American fails to meet?
Where there’s no representation as in the Police PP style of crime management that is no different to the Nazis in ww2.
The USA has a bill of rights that allows for political change to occur, not the fascist status Quo that exists in Australia. FACT not opinion!
Your country that went to a referendum to see whether it NEEDED a democracy! FACT not opinion!
Now that’s joke on monumental scale! Not only did you bumpkins hold a referendum to decide whether you needed a democracy you voted it out!! . FACT not opinion
Posted by thomasfromtacoma, Saturday, 5 December 2009 2:35:28 PM
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