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Mad Monk and the Liberal integruity?

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Dear Examinator,

You've summed things up beautifully.

I sat and watched events unravel yesterday on
TV from early morning - I simply couldn't believe
what was happening. It just wasn't logical.
How out of touch are these people?
And of course the scheme that the party is going
to come up with - further down the track will
be all for giving big business the rights to
get whatever it wants - and slogging the tax payer
with greater taxes.

The sad truth is that condemnation
of others - is the only language these guys understand.
They're not concerned about doing what's right - they
brook no interference and allow for no moral judgements.
Total neanderthals - the lot!
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 6:08:05 PM
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Foxy, Google "Climate Gate, UK", & do some reading, before you make a bigger fool of yourself, than you all ready have.

Any thought of emissions trading will be dead by february.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 7:13:14 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

Thank You for your concern about me.
I do appreciate it. However,
even Mr Abbott says that the Liberal
Party will have a scheme in place next
year - so it doesn't seem that the scheme is
going to die any time soon, as you
suggest. And thank you for your link.
I did read it.

However, for those who are convinced
that humans are not responsible for polluting
the rivers, oceans, land, atmosphere and
deforestation and to choose to ignore the fact
that the world population is approaching nine billion,
and that one quarter of the world's mammal species are
threatened by extinction, and don't believe
that temperatures will increase by 1.4 degrees C.
to 5.8 degrees C. over the next 100 years...

I offer these alternatives:

1) The earth's axis is tilting and melting the ice.
2) The earth is on an eliptical orbit around the sun
varying the distance from the sun thus affecting the
climate.
3) The gravitational force of the sun is slowly
sucking the earth into oblivion.

Therefore there's no point in doing anything...

When the rest of the world expects Australia to set an
example, certain anti- climate change hardliners
prefer to find excuses and defend their
delay tactics because they are so convinced of their
"all-knowingness" that no proposition is so outrageous
or implausible to them.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 8:31:59 PM
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I can't believe those who are so full of their own self importance. Australia produces so little of the world's Green house gases and people say things like 'the world is watching us'. Most have not even heard of Australia and certainly has better things to do than watch us. The corrupt leaders in third world countries might be counting how much money they can rip out of the Australian taxpayer. They are probably the only ones watching Australia. Those Abbot haters (now they can't vent hate towards Howard) have not said a word about Obama's complete failure to introduce any worthwhile policy to reduce green house gases. The same Abbot haters will cheer all the hypocrites flying off the CopenHagen in their private jets.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:28:19 AM
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Foxy trust me, remember just before the election?
I told you the out come and you feared I may be wrong?
I am no smarter than anyone, maybe less so but trust me.
It is those who think, if that is what you call it, like hasbeen who now control the Liberal/National party's.
For a time, not long, they will see a lift in the polls, no not a giant one but a noticeable one.
After Copenhagen they will look just a bit silly, to you me, and thinkers they look far worse than that now.
Abbott will claim he was right to wait.
Say we now know our direction, like a flower in the wind petals will start to fall of, splits within splits.
After a landslide victory to Labor, those splits with expand.
The Conservatives must find a way of getting rid of the rats in their ranks.
No easy task, 50% plus 1 seem to be their number.
Turnbull will go, leave the house his seat too.
We will get ETS and Abbott will not be in Parliament by the following election.
It is remarkable, truly, more damage has been done to conservatives by their own hand, and by folk like hasbeen, than by Labor.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 3 December 2009 3:37:42 AM
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Dear Belly,

Thanks for that.

Your words always cheer me up.

I needed to hear them this time around,
as the news is so bleak at the moment.
I know you're right - and I can at least
find comfort in the fact that the majority
of Australians won't buy into the divisive
tactics of a small minority - who simply
prefer inaction and complacency to actually
achieving something worthwhile. They don't
seem to realise that the ETS is a stop-gap
solution to limit the production of carbon
pollution - raising funds to develop more
efficient systems of energy production, and
encouraging industries to take that course of
action.

I watched Lateline last night and Barnaby Joyce -
when interviewed couldn't answer the question -
"How are you guys planning to pay for an ETS scheme
as part of the policy that you'll be putting forward
prior to the next election?"

"Won't a tax be part of that equation?"

All Joyce could do was look uncomfortable ...

As I said in my earlier post - neanderthals - the lot
of them!
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 3 December 2009 10:25:37 AM
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