Who watched the MM last night on the 7.30 report?
Who watched Pyne's job application on Late line?

Any question that the EST was not just a vector to Liberal Party power and a Political spoiler(party power politics, forget the people)
'We will have a comprehensive climate change policy in the new year' MM said.

*What is the bet it will be so pro big business the entire weight will be put on the Tax payer?*
He want's to bring back the Liberal natural instincts (?)....to oppose and oppose again no real commitment to anything and the party comes first.

He went on to admit that an ETS will probably be part of Liberal policy. He admitted that it was important to enhance the PM's importance on the world stage. He even said we'd follow the US anyway

So much for the conservative point of principal....watch their spin from here in. Changing what they have said.

'We don't see that we need to rush it through now and tie ourselves to..unfair international competition'. Even though it wouldn't have come into play untill 2011.
Who is he kidding? only the ignorant, those people who don't understand the process. If it was passed today, which it wont be, it wouldn't be presented for assent untill after Copenhagen, anyway.
Rudd is a lot of things but not stupid. If Copenhagen fell over the bill would just sit and never become law. To do otherwise would be political suicide.


Sterns made the point also that any sensible system would involve both a tax and an ETS.

One of the things that have disturbed me about Tony Abbott is the often repeated mantra that we don't want to pass the ETS just so Rudd can look good in Copenhagen.

Given Abbott's well documented hatred of Rudd one can't help but think it this emnity, as much as his conviction, that has been driving his actions over the part fortnight.

The issue is too important for parties to be settling scores.

Tony Abbott's rhetoric on climate change policy appears to be a bit garbled at the moment.

When asked on radio this morning why he has turned around on the government's mandate to introduce an ETS, he replied, "That's what front benchers do". - adding that "mandates expire".

He stated that his party is committed to coming up with a climate policy, "...in the context of an overall global scheme sometime in the future".

He's pledged to "give the planet the benefit of the doubt", although he's dubious about the science. This leads one to doubt that an effective and resilient climate change policy can be drawn up by people who ignore or question the accuracy of the data they are using to draw their conclusions.

I doubt that integrity is going to feature very much in this exercise at all. Mr Abbott, it appears, has already decided on his method of attack, by steering the debate away from climate change and framing it within the context of "The Great Big New Tax".

‘Integruity’.

Good word. Something in between integrity and incongruity.

Describes Mad Monk and the Libs rather well actually!

Abbott and the Libs have already demonstrated the integrity we've become accustomed to from them, by reneging on the agreement that they had made with the Government to pass the ETS.

Expect much more of that kind of 'integrity'.

There was only one thought crossed my mind as KRudd drove the ETS wedge hard into the Liberals. "Be careful what you wish for".

As public interest peaks for an ETS, as cost reality seeps in, as interest rates rise and questioning of the "need" for an ETS grows, we may yet be singing the old sixties song. "A penulum swings like a pendulum do, bobbies on bicicles two by two" Is it gloating I sense, couldn't be that old sinking feeling could it?