For my take on it I predict that White Ribbon Day will be back again next year, and that those sad souls who don't care about violence against men will still be bleating about how dreadful men are.

At a guess they will be still be deliberately and falsly claiming those who want campaigns against all violence are somehow trying to cover up violence against women or to take away women's access to services. They will still be quoting stats and studies built on layers of feminist mantra and the assumption that men are inherently more controlling, more dishonest than women.

They will still be very quiet on explaining just why speaking out against all violence is so wrong. Some will get the problem with racially based campaigns but be deathly silent when it comes to explaining why gender based campigns are so much better.

R0bert

Anyone that denies depression is across this country denies the Senate Inquiry into the Forgotten Australians
That inquiry found that with all the Illegal removal and abuse of children, depression is now that widespread that it affects nearly all families of Australia
Heres another of the stories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrFF5Httho
Now can we leave the gender fight out of this show and get some collective ideas on how we are going to start to stop all violence and get rid of the alcohol and drug abuse from our society so people can concentrate on giving the children a better future
Many of the women argue it is not up to the women to stay home and raise the kids but I note that those same women use help for women and children so they are saying that the children should be with them
The men that want to argue that it is unforgivable to hurt a women are using the "weaker sex argument" then I don't think this would hold well with the Anti-Discrimination Act
NOW LETS JUST STOP VIOLENCE
Thanks from
Dave

CJ Morgan, It's obvious your not old enough to have grown up with or around the old Catholic Mafia, where the women were the ones who had a major role in whacking various threats to the organization. Don't think that your s$*t don't stink because I can smell you from here.

That crystal ball you own must give you insights into many more aspects of life than the rest of us, being able to predict white ribbon day next year & all because the only solidarity you are showing, is how to gang up on men & not to use your brain for an equitable outcome for good of 'man' & 'women' kind. I can see you must be so proud of what you teach children. Oh my, such an intelligent species.

CJMorgan:"I'm neither little nor afraid of men. "

And you shouldn't be, little fella, most men aren't violent in any way. Now take those elevator shoes off and stop trying so hard to puff up your chest little fella, no one's fooled, although I bet Mum thought you looked like a "real little man" when you did that, didn't she, bless 'er.

R0bert:"They will still be very quiet on explaining just why speaking out against all violence is so wrong."

As I noted earlier, the media response to WRD this year was very muted. After last year's debacle in which the WRD people, especially Flood, were caught out deliberately falsifying media reports to bolster their case there seems to be a great deal more scepticism, as there should be.

a couple of journalists, like Paul Sheehan, know which side their bread is buttered and made sure to write something to ensure their access to female Labour politicians continues, but otherwise there was very little.

In the firat post of this thread I mentioned a press release from the WRD people published by the C-M, which referred to "new figures" showing huge amounts of violenece and sexual assault against women (but not mentioning the 3-4 times as many male victims). We've still not been informed what those "figures" are or where they came from.

I think it's safe to assume they're another one of those figments of Michael Flood's fevered imagination. His stuff is as convincing as a Mills and Boon novel and even less realistic. It's even tailored to the same audience...

R0bert - nothing at all wrong with a campaign to eliminate all violence from our society. Why don't you get together with your mates and start one? If it looks like it's genuine and not a front to deflect attention from violence against women, I'll even join you.

BTW, your race analogy is a false one. Think about it.

Whistler

Please don't ever post hyperlinks to Nina Furnell articles again. She is a disgrace to every cause that she stands for.

CJ

Why doesn't the race analogy work? I cannot see any problem with the logic of Robert's argument.