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Political cynacism?

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The more the Liberals fight, the more chance a third party might actually overtake them.
Therefore- keep up the fight fellas- your country thanks you!

This should simply outline how petty, self-interested and totally unsuitable for running a country the Liberal Party actually are- instead a lot of people are waiting at the edge of their seats hoping they'll "get their act together" for the next election- as if they EVER had their act together to begin with.
In fact, anyone that views governing the country as a matter of their 'team' using tactics and teamwork to win, like a sports game, shows a VERY sick state of mind in this country and only enhances my support for abolishing compulsory voting.

The ONLY good thing the Liberal Party EVER had in it's entire history was a reasonably good treasurer- but he's bailed out of a hissy fit- so he's not really suitable either- even if he comes back- again.
Posted by King Hazza, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 7:14:39 PM
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Dear KH,

I'm not sitting on the edge of my seat
waiting for the Libs to get their act
together.

I'm fully aware that they've
been going round in decreasing concentric
circles for years. But in all fairness,
if Labor was able to learn and get their act
together and they managed to win the last
election - perhaps, just perhaps, the Libs
may make it yet, providing of course
they're able to give up - their preferred sin of greed.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 7:33:49 PM
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Won't happen Foxy- both major parties are filled to the rim of selfish, shady characters mostly concerned with feathering their own nests- and no amount of competition will make them suddenly turn non-corrupt. But I guarantee you they WILL pretend to do so in the hopes that enough people desperate for an opposition party that's not the Greens will take it as a sign of anything meaningful.

The only way to get Australian politics to become actually serious, and not the gravy-train circus it is now, would either:

1- if somehow, all of the old members were replaced by honest, decent and public-serving people (that for some reason wanted to join the Liberal or Labor Party, and the existing party members were helpless or too incompetent to realize and stop them). Basically, for hordes of people flat out against the (real) principals of the parties, systematically joining them hoping to undermine them and convert them into something actually serious- all without the existing members realising this until it's too late. Ironically, they'd have to be bigger, more skillful cheats than the people they're hoodwinking- yet more honest at the same time.

2- People vote for another party- eg one with a less corrupt track record or one that at least makes a point about specific corrupt political practices and are, presumably, more strongly against them than the current two parties.

3- For some various regulations cutting back politician's pay substantially- cutting all perks entirely, and regulating politician's conduct. This would easily get all of the less honest characters- all jumping ship instantly. The problem is, these politicians decide their own perks- there's no way such a clause would slip past them.

As unlikely as any of the above happening, 2 is by far the most possible- although if there are any persons planning number 1 with their friends, that would be even better.
Posted by King Hazza, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 10:11:17 PM
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Dear KH,

Is it really as bleak as all that?
Geez Louise!

Well, I guess Dennis Pryor sums it up rather well
then, in his booklet, "Political Pryorities :
How to get on tope of Australian Politics,"
when he writes:

" Dedicated to Canberra
Where bureaucrats parasitical
And parties political
And Ministers hypocritical
Steal the money of the nation
Through what they call taxation."
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 12 November 2009 7:57:09 PM
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Afraid so Foxy.

You might be interested to read up some thoughts of former Independent politician Ted Mack, too.

But it becomes pretty clear when you look closely enough at their overall conduct, behaviour etc.

Especially when it comes to matters of the transfer of funds either to the party members, or to major industrial lobbyists.

Similar deal with Labor.
Posted by King Hazza, Thursday, 12 November 2009 8:21:02 PM
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Krudd was elected on his promise, like those made by so many detergents, to get the skid marks out of your undershorts…

So two or so years down the track

Far from delivering a bright and shiny pair of jocks

The skid marks have just become even more Kruddy.

We were better off using brand Howard, safe and simple, no promises of dazzling whiteness of the aforementioned under garments and no premium price (in the form of the large economy dimulous package) as paid for Brand Krudd delivering nothing.
Posted by Col Rouge, Friday, 13 November 2009 9:33:20 AM
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