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Who is the villian here?

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Sandiland is back.
The question is who is the villain now?
Kyle, Austereo or the yobs that listen to him.

One thing for certain Austereo are really losing by his antics. Rather they benefit. We all know that sensation and controversy sell (get ratings). The higher the ratings to more profit.
To be fair media management is a balancing act.

If we take some of the 'horrendous' scandals of a few years ago replayed them today they would probably wouldn't raise a whimper.

The media offer two arguments one it is their "duty" (sic) to push the boundaries (Same for "art"). Secondly they are simply giving the public what they want hence the ratings.

The contra argument could be that the media is simply 'creating' a market from a potential (repressed want).

My concern is that by continually pushing the boundaries they are in fact desensitising the public in an ever downward spiral to lower brain instincts, lowest common denominator in free fall (for profit). One can reasonably ask in the interests of a functional society (we are clearly a societal species.) should we?

Since our instincts evolved/ were created as a species we have developed extra brain abilities. That of choice and judgement et al.
Doesn't it follow that we should STRIVE for better option than(as often argued) Big Brother/bees V Jungle law with suits? Surely there is a middle ground.

It can be convincingly argued that somewhere in the fog of culture there must be some basic rights and wrongs. Constantly 'lowering' the bar, can also be demonstrated, doesn't reduce victims merely renames them. Which doesn't improve society.

It isn't absolute that society is, in the short/medium term adversely
effected by individual instances (i.e. Kyle "show's" lack of just about everything). The problem is the cumulative effect of other 'responses' from their/his competitors.

Clearly in the above scenario the only winners (albeit temporarily) are those of Austereo and their commercial ilk.
Is this really good for us as individuals, the majority or society as a whole?
Shouldn't Austereo then face its responsibility and clean up their act too?
Posted by examinator, Friday, 9 October 2009 1:52:35 PM
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great topic egsaminor...mate its a global thing...done through the media...

so i listen to alter-native media...lol
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?cmd=archives

...even turned off abc..[news radio...sick of hearing the same..same..same..there seems no new..[in news?]...lol..tell him..hes jo-king...i found real news
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
http://www.infowars.com/

and....lol...googling it up..for myself

that site led to many others...but here is one caught my eye today
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=4572

Beijing’s ‘aim is to make people docile’...and not just them...thanks to terror act/enactments/powers...we do this too...lolblack pots/kettles...same../same/shame

quote<<..“All the journalists know the instructions come from the CPD,” says one disgruntled journalist over lunch.

“It’s not like they make a secret of it...They just tell us openly:..‘These are the instructions.’ ”

A journalist from another newspaper is asked..if the experience is demoralizing?

“Of course...We hate the CPD,”..says the reporter,..whose paper is known for challenging department guidelines.

But few papers do.

Seasoned editors note that 90 per cent of Chinese papers>>SAME HERE<<..are filled with entertainment..and sports..and lighter fare..that the propaganda department/couldn’t care less about.

“They’re only interested in controlling..news about politics and current affairs,”..Li says.>>>...

...<<<..The weekly meetings were introduced then,..and continue to this day.>>..we have the same..'embedding concept'..

..<<Xiao notes,..however,..that propaganda has been central..to the Communist party strategy..from the very beginning..not just since 1949,..but during the Chinese Civil War..which began in the 1920s.>>..our's began 1913...lol

...<<“Victory depended on a two-pronged strategy:..One was the military of course,..but the other was the ability to mobilize people...through propaganda.

“When they took power in 1949,..they simply kept the same strategy.”

“In the Communists’..own words..it was the power of the gun..and the power of the pen.”

But Xiao also notes that,.lately,..there are growing signs of resistance from within the system.>>...
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 10 October 2009 9:57:35 AM
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Ban-aminator!

I think we should just ban any programme that pontificator decides is too low-brow. He's the connoisseur of good TV and radio, one only needs to consult him.

The only 'responsibilities' an entertainment company holds are to comply with the law. That they bend over whenever moral crusaders lobby the sources of their advertising revenue is just an example of why

a) there is no need to legislate taste.
b) if anything, the undemocratic pandering to these minority of vocal moral crusaders is evidence enough some protection is needed instead for the majority who enjoy that brand of entertainment who may have their fun spoiled.

After all it's those fans that subsidise, through their taxes, pontificators entertainment via the ABC.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 12 October 2009 9:40:27 AM
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When the purported rape claim was made I then already warned we better wait if there really was ever a rate before chastising Kyle.
When he made the reference about the concentration camps I pointed out that concentration camps are all around the world from time to time and so why blame the man for a particular concentration camp event long ago?
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I do not listen to Kyle because he is not in my area, and so have no bias towards him. In real, I didn’t like him because of the way he came across on the media, but that doesn’t make him guilty of wrongdoing where none was intended.
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Claims such as that he strapped the girl to a lie detector hardly is true as Kyle more then likely never touched the girl, rather it was someone else. We can dramatise and indeed over dramatise every thing, like the Michael Jackson thing on Hey Hey Its Saturday but shouldn’t we just be more lightly heartened?
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Soon you might not be able to say “It is written in black and white.”, because then you might be deemed a racist. Surely we can do better with that then to try to pick on everything?
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Life is so short and yet more and more regulations to make it more difficult. Just consider this that probably your life span would be to short just to be able to read and consider every piece of legislation, regulation, etc, you are subjected to as such, you would have no time to live life if you had to read it all, as such lets make it a real party and just do what you think ordinary is right and proper in a society and more then likely you be all right.
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I view the issues with Kyle were blown out of proportion and I view we did better to concentrate on real issues such as….
Well I leave that up to you to work on.
Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Monday, 12 October 2009 10:34:01 PM
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