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What you are talking about is illegal. Offal is pure colesterol, that does not make lean mince

Not true, heart for instance is pure red and is often used to make fatty meats appear lean. It is also widely used for meat pies.

The pumping of meat is called massarging, this is more likely to happen with chicken, not beef.

Sorry to correct you but massaging is not pumping.

Pumping is performed by liquid being 'pumped' into the meat tissue, while 'massaging' is performed by meat being placed in a 'sealed vessel', along with liquid and massaged under a vacume for up to 24 hours.

The pumping that had been expossed usually happens with beef.

Now while beef will hold approx 12% additional liquid, and chicken around 9%, these 'cowboys' are adding up to 50%.

If the workplace that you seek rehctub was to ever come into play, where people were no longer assured of the security of their job (sack at will) there would be a lot less people buying meat.
Some people are just plain 'THICK'!

When are you ever going to get your head around the fact that I don't treat staff poorley?

My business and unfair dissmissal are two different issues so please don't tage me as a bad boss.

Belly
I eat very little meat myself and my favourites are crumbed steak and snags. Tonight I am about to enjoy a huge 'black Angus' rib on the barby.

Cheers
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 7:43:08 PM
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When I go and buy meat I want what's advertised. Any suggestion that I'm expected to know what's in meat BASED ON COST really really p*sses me RIGHT off.

HOW DARE the industry, or dodgy butchers rather, advertise something and adjust the content based on cost. That should be illegal. If I found that out about a butcher you'd never see me again.

...and butchers wonder why people go with the supermarkets...
Posted by StG, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 8:16:33 PM
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Hey can I just ask why the meat packets you by in the supermarket that have a plastic tray and cling wrap over the top puff up?

Never happened in NZ.

As for cheap meat, when broke you can only buy cheap if you want meat.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 9:31:41 PM
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Huh!! Some people are thick. Not very nice rehctub. In the naughty corner for you. :)

If I have misunderstood you I will apologise but I am pretty sure of your own statements that employers should be able to sack staff at anytime without recourse or cause. Are you now denying this?

All I said, as we have discussed previously - be careful what you wish for because you would see a big downturn in spending particularly meat. Job security is vital to business just as it is to labour.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:00:13 PM
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To your initial query of how cheap meat shoppers think. Here's my insight as a cheap meat shopper.

I expect what I pay for.

I have no idea how to look at meat and tell good from bad quality. And I don't really want to know. I don't think I should have to have a butcher's knowledge to work out if I am getting what is on the label.
If I but "Budget" rump I expect it to be a bit tougher, a bit lower quality. But, if I buy "premium" rump I would expect it to be better quality, and this is also not always the case.
So, in general I buy budget cuts, because I don't trust that a higher price always equals a better piece of meat. At least if I am paying budget prices, I can guarantee I am getting budget meat.
But unless it says on the label "pumped full of water" or "contains offal" I wouldn't expect this.

Maybe butchers could just sell meat for a reasonable price without having to employ tricks, label things incorrectly and basically try to scam the public. If I could trust butchers, I would probably try some of the more expensive cuts.
Posted by burbs, Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:27:59 AM
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Dear rehctub,

I'm like Belly - I've got a local butcher that I
trust and he knows my taste.

I may pay more - but my family has never scrimped
on food - other things - yes - but not food.

I like good cuts - for example - a pork roast -
has to be Pork Scotch, steaks are tenderloin,
(scotch fillets), and even for my beef strogonov,
the meat has to be the best - other wise the taste
suffers.

Our butcher also makes the most superb sausages -
ideal for barbeques - he's actually won
awards for them.

Cheap meats? I prefer to think that quality matters
in what you buy to eat - and I try to economise in
other ways.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 17 September 2009 4:33:29 PM
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