Great post Forrest.

Not forgetting that pit-roasting was an excellent way to cook food and no doubt, an observant human would've noticed the glassy result of fused sand, leading to wondering what else changed properties after high temperatures.

Also observation after lava flows. So many opportunities to learn - a world of discovery. Now we get excited at a delivery of stationery to the office, sigh.

What I'd like to know is how someone got the idea to add yeast to dough to make it rise and create bread and, of course that other yeasty product, beer. Now that's genius.

“Also observation after lava flows. So many opportunities to learn - a world of discovery. Now we get excited at a delivery of stationery to the office, sigh.”

I love stationary Fractelle, I get fully excited about stationary. Yabby could explain because I think getting excited about stationary is a feminine trait. Beer’s not – you’re a bit of a dark horse at times aren’t ya.

Thanks Suzy, Happy to spread a bit of joy.[smile] That gold thing was interesting and David was saying about how gold is sort of found in its final form aye. Fractelle mentioned the sand thing… and now we just have to figure out what kind of mind put two or three different things (cause I know nothing about metals) from different sources together to make one particular alloy?

What is iron made from?

Forrest.. would it make a difference if people were nomadic or not? Like if they moved a lot they wouldn’t notice changes after say a lightning strike same as people who stayed in one place for generations.

And is this all about accidents, or a human or humans that did stop to think?

TPP asks:

"What is iron made from?"

It is made from iron ore.

Cheers Forrest.

david<<<..It's quite a step from seeing blobs of metal melted from a rock in a campfire,..to realising that those blobs of metal can make a knife,..ring or pot and doing it...How do you think humans made the step?>>.monkey see monkey do....and by keeping secrets

<<Do you think the first metal object produced by smelting an ornament, weapon, cooking ware, tool or something else?>>.it was accepted as a gift #...of the fire spirit...the first gifts were from lighening strikes that creates melted sands...and simply were found where the soil had eroded

break a glsss rod you get a sharp egse...gain the idea of deliberatly cutting shaping etc[so you notice things...see how the shape of an empty skin left over from a flood..when baked in fire made the first pot

<,Do you have evidence for your conjecture?>>...not really when wew see a new thing we are driven to achieve the same gift of the fire by repeating the same ritual/mantra spell...its bnatural we should fully explore a new thing...then endlessly talk about it,,,then se another one...and get its story

<<Do you think there is some other way that humans saw metal coming from ore other than by fire?>>lightening strikes...on eroded outcroppings with high metalic ore content...interesting colours baked into clay pots

hey where that gold stuff go[or my diamond burned ...lol..go figure you dont do that again...unless tyour after the same affect

watch the kids invent..speculate possable uses for a new thing...in nature of thaty early time were monster trees...like one fig tree was the basis for figtree pocket...its roots were 6 meters high..and spanned near one acre of ground...

we simply cant see what they saw..then...actal metals sticking out of the gound..the colours of the rich ore bodies...amasing crystal formations...huge things[great wonders..

but..[because gradually people managed to hide the true greatness of nature/god...by destroying it]..they cause the big things to be destroyed used or exploited..into its bits[componant/constituent parts]...that..because..they cant own it..yet..can trade a part of it]...and next thing its all gone

G'Day All,
An interesting thread & the speculation that goes on about me old cousins(caveMEN no womens lib then) way back then but all things aside I would agree it was probably by accicent the same as glass which was acredited as coming from a lightning strike on sand.
Thanks have a great day from Dave