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Pauline hanson..was she and One Nation a racist party?

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One would have to be deranged to think no to that question
Posted by savoir68, Saturday, 6 January 2007 6:47:01 PM
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Racism definitions

• An attitude, action or institutional structure, which subordinates a person or group because of their color. Racism involves having the power to carry out systematic discriminatory practices.
www.gecdf.com/diversity/glossary.html

• An assumption that there is an inherent purity and superiority of certain races and inferiority of others. It denotes any attitude, behavior, or institutional structure that subordinates, persons or groups because of their race or ethnic background. Such practices can be intentional or unintentional.
web.bryant.edu/~fsp/modules/2/diversitygloss.htm

According to McIntosh's article, "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack", the following is a list of the privileges that she has as a white person:
• 1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
• 2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.
• 3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
• 4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
• 5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.
• 6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
• 7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
• 8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
• 9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.
• 10. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.
http://seamonkey.ed.asu.edu/~mcisaac/emc598ge/Unpacking.html
Posted by Rainier, Saturday, 6 January 2007 11:59:02 PM
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Dear_MiddleoftheRoad
yes, you may have a point there about Pauline singling out 'Black' Africans. I'm not one to deny_facts.
Lets look just a tad_deeper. Looking at Banjo's well documented post, which includes the Hansard, clearly there are screening problems or issues over African migrant/refugee_arrivals.
What is not determined, is the percentage of HIV prevalent in the Black and White segments of the community. Pauline would have been far better, to refer to some real statistics in direct connection with that remark. This is one of her fatal weaknesses, she speaks without adequate research at times.

So, perhaps her call is based on real information which she did not disclose, thinking that 'its widely known' about the sexual practices of Black Africans compared to those of White. Now.. I cannot give any hard data, only a perception based in broad media coverage, and it seems the Black African segment has more permissive sexual mores than the white. Evidence ? Yep.. polygamy is practiced among many if not most Black Africans, but not in White communities. A polygamous attitude means that the idea of faithfulness to one person, is low on the value scale and would tend to promote outside sexual behavior as well. This would be particularly so if the Africans were Muslims of the Shia variety.
I mention Shia Muslims, because they have a practice called 'Nikah Mutah' which is temporary marraige, that boils down to one or many night stands for an agreed period for pleasure.

In all this I am arguing from silence, (i.e. absense of reported facts directly connected to this particular issue) so my points don't carry much weight in this specific case.

Pauline should take the time to consider what 'sport' the media might make over her less than comprehensive comments, unless of course (as happened in the past) the Media is also 'selectively reporting' in order to create a particular image of her, for political reasons.
(something I've witnessed personally)

RANIER your little effort seems to be the best evidence for intermarraige and One Nation, One Race, One Culture so far :)
Thanx mate.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Sunday, 7 January 2007 12:13:54 PM
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On a lighter note, I came across a hilarious pic of 'Hansonella' at http://watermelonrant.blogspot.com/2006/12/hanson-bloodsucker-brown.html while looking for Bob Brown's actual comments about Hanson.

A more serious response to Boaz's odiously insulting distortion of Bob Brown's actual words may be found at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=5153#67016 .
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 8 January 2007 10:08:50 PM
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I had a look at that picture...my goodness..its about as nice as a picture of Bob Brown bending over...and... yeah.. I won't go further.

POLITICAL LIARS... welllll...lets see a few of them.

HANSON "We're bringing in people from South Africa at the moment, there's a huge amount coming into Australia, who have diseases, they've got AIDS," Ms Hanson told AAP.

BAIRD Liberal Bruce Baird said Ms Hanson had her facts wrong in suggesting immigrants were bringing disease into the country.
Mr Baird said all immigrants underwent strict health and character checks before being granted visas.

IMMIGRATION SPOKES PERSON
Department of Immigration spokeswoman rejected the claims, saying stringent health checks were carried out on all permanent and temporary residents.

HANSARD
8-3-6 NSW Legislative Assembly Hansard. The Premier, Mr Morris Iemma said only 37% of the 4000 refugees from Africa underwent screening before arriving in Australia. He went on to say that it puts the whole community at risk from such diseases such as TB, Malaria, Hepatitis, measles, internal parasites and clinical Rickets

THE TRUTH... They are ALL right, but all sides are not coming totally clean. Hanson is closest to the truth.
BAIRD neglected to say that many spend A YEAR after their first check in camps in AFRICA... gee.. now that couldn't make any difference to their health..COULD IT ?

http://www.zipworld.com.au/~triumph/iemma.htm

So, all those 'She is just a racist' mob.. and 'she is a bloodsucker' causing division, can eat humble pie on these words if they have the honesty to do so.

People resorting to the 'RACIST' card will be getting back in kind the same accusation, and no amount of attempted character assassination will stop it.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Tuesday, 9 January 2007 3:29:16 PM
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Yes Boaz, but I bet you're children don't understand why you consider them not to be just like you.
Posted by Rainier, Tuesday, 9 January 2007 5:59:16 PM
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