sharkfin

Might I simplify your comment by stating that people support or oppose things according to whether they perceive a benefit?

As an example, consider a meatworker who is told to accept lower pay and conditions else his job will go to an overseas worker on a 457 visa. Do you think that this person would support immigration? Do you think that the race of the person given his job would be of relevance to him?

Now consider a property developer who has just bulldozed a large area of bushland in the outer suburbs and is looking for buyers. Do you think that this person would support immigration? Do you think that the race of the prospective buyers is of more relevance to the developer than the number of potential buyers?

It is easy to claim that supporters of immigration have a higher morality, but I would hardly think this motivation to be altruism. What higher motivations would you suggest?

Good points Fester...and Sharky

two different but complementary views of the same thing.

Tribalism...Culture-ism... 'us/them-ism' it all boils down to resources and access to them as Chris pointed out in his 'reasons for war' article.

Rob..I just make the point about Brown because he made his attack on Pauline.. good for the goose, good for the gander.

DID anyone hear the interview with IRFY on ABC today ? afternoon... he was having a whinge about the daily telegraph 'opinion' section which has been modelled after OLO. Many 'anti muslim' and outright racist 'opinions' are being printed, which avoids the paper being sued.
Interesting stuff.
have a good rest 2night all.

BD, did Brown comment on Pauline's sex life? If so then your comments might be legit in a tit for tat kind of way.

I'll stick to not liking him for a bunch of other reasons to do with his politics.

R0bert

No Rob..he didn't but calling someone a 'bloodsucking' anything means its open season to me :) He is commenting without being asked on her politics and attitudes to race....I'm commenting without being asked on his sexual orientation.... Its not about tit for tat exactly, its about calling it as you see it, and not responding to a left hook with just a jab, but a damn hard knee to the sternum.

Speaking of which, I'm just about in need of intensive care now, last night at kickboxing, I was partnered up with a 6'5" bloke who weighs only about 95kg, and I'm 5'11.5" and weigh 105kg, I had asked him to partner me in workouts so I get the feel for a much bigger bloke. Problem is, he was not so fleshy and his knee became a very sharp point, and even through a very thick pad thing, I just about felt my ribs collapse each time he kneed me. THUMP...*groan*...THUMP *groan* :)

Have a good day mate.

Firstly, the first link provided by the author states that Pauline was jailed for electoral fraud but makes no mention of her being aquitted by a higher court. I call that bias!

Secondly, Pauline was taken to the anti-discrimination board 2 or 3 times and on each occasion came out clean. Time and the closest scrutiny has failed to produce any evidence of racial comments by her or One Nation.

In relation to her most recent comments about African immmigrants, I submit as follows :-

8-3-6 NSW Legislative Assembly Hansard. The Premisr, Mr Morris said only 37% of the 4000 refugees from Africa underwent screening before arriving in Australia. He went on to say that it puts the whole community at risk from such diseases such as TB, Malaria, Hepatitis, measles, internal parasites and clinical Rickets.

9-3-06 SMH carried this story.

10-3-06 The Age, HIV infected arrivals costing NSW $2 million a year. Many had not been screened and only discovered after entering Australia. State health officials warned of outbreak of disease.

Going on this,I would say Pauline is correct. Bob Brown and others need to do their homework. So much for those that say she does not know what she is talking about.

Forgot to say.
googled AIDS+Africa and found that up to 38% of population is estimated to have HIV/AIDS in some African countries.

Why should we not be concerned.