Belly,
It seems you still think that Della Bosca should not have lost his job. I disagree, and think he should be out of Parliament as well, simply because he has shown himself to be dishonest and not trustworthy.

What do you think of the situation regarding John Brogden a few years ago. I may not have all the details correct, but I think he stupidly made advances to a female journalist and she exposed this. This meant he was trying to cheat on his wife. So not any sympathy from me.

His situation was that he was a 'lay down mazaire' to win the next election and become NSW Premier.

Would you, or did you, blame the media for his downfall at the time?

We put our trust in politicians to do the right thing by us and it is dissappointing to see them lie.

Where do we draw the line in what lies politicians can tell?

John Howard told more lies than any politician I can remember - and they were directly related to his job as a politician. I don't recall Banjo calling for his dismissal.

It seems Yabby and a few others have diverted into discussion on human mating habits. I have a cocept on this that i would like opinions on.

From my (limited) experiences in long term sexual relationships, I perceive a 'heat' period in womens menstrual cycles, along the lines that other mamuals have. This maybe more pronounced in some women than others, but I have never seen the matter refered to by womens sex advisors, in mags or books. I have simply noticed that my partners have been more receptive at some times. Maybe with the onset of ovulation?

If there is a 'heat' period in the cycle, it seems men have lost the ability to detect it. It also may account for some womens acceptance of male advances at times and not others. I have also heard some women express surprize at their, normally conservative, friends behaviour toward a male stripper at a Hens night. Could 'heat' account for this?

Would anyone care to put forward their thoughts on this, or if they are aware of any studies that have been done.

'John Howard told more lies than any politician I can remember ' Some people get more forgetful and selective in their hearing as they age.

“And men, all of us, are much more likely to be in the wrong than women.”

That’s an honest admission Belly and in regards to Labor Party cabinet ministers, I must say I agree, however, when I referred to Meagher’s contradiction of DB’s account over the Newman murder, you claimed she was an idiot.

And factional warlords have all but destroyed the ALP and in so doing, have lessened the voices of women - women who are regularly burnt up and spat out by the party.

I’m reminded of the foreign star Labor introduced to its galaxy - former Democrat Leader Cheryl Kernot.

Kernot claimed “there was a combination of suspicion and hostility from some in the party, and a lack of mentoring or legitimisation of me on the front bench by Kim Beazley, who made a lot of promises to me that didn’t eventuate. I was promised that I’d be part of their strategy group, but I never was.”

Gareth Evans, the former foreign minister and deputy Labor leader, lied to Parliament about the five-year extramarital affair he was having with Cheryl Kernot.

While the affair was well known within Canberra’s political circles, Simon Crean said he'd accepted Mr Evans's 1998 rebuttal of the affair in Parliament and had never noticed anything untoward between Mr Evans and Ms Kernot.

Kernot suffered some sort of a breakdown after Laurie Oaks exposed the affair to a harsh public. Tail between legs, she was reduced to living a life of relative obscurity in London.

In June 2008, Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd appointed Gareth Evans (endowed with an "Officer of the Order of Australia" in 2001) co-chair of the International Non-Proliferation and Disarmament Commission. In July 2008, Gareth Evans was selected as an inaugural fellow of the Australian Institute of International Affairs. In October 2008, he was awarded an Honourary Doctorate of Laws from the University of Sydney.

There remains no demarcation between private and political life within the Labor ranks where the patriarchal festering sore of lies and corruption is gangrous. To whom will honest Labor supporters turn now, Belly?

Banjo that is so weird, no I don’t have the answer. But I do know that at boarding school all 8 girls I shared a dorm with were on the exact same cycle.

I thought all that stuff had to do with the sense of smell (Yabby will know) and now we use soap and deodorant it’s kinda killed our ability to pick it up?

But yes, there certainly is a more receptive time that appears to occur regularly with obvious symptoms. If men knew the secret they could save a fortune in gifts that aren’t going to work anyway. Wonder if it is still the same post menopause and why on earth I’ve never thought about this before now.

Could be used by Kate as a defense even "I was on heat". [cringe] Maybe not.

And the boarding school thing, wonder if there is a “dominant” female that changes everyone else or if it is a collective decision.