TPP follow my advice you may not get the answer you want but you will have fun.
Contact the first bloke again.
Tell him you went to the bloke he sent you to.
He said its not my job go back to him we are sick of him getting us to do his work.
then ask in your e mail who his boss is, fake it just may work, PS change your e mail address if it suddenly gets spam, he may be as slippery as me.

Whistler I am in a typical situation where I know something is all wrong, other caregivers are telling me they wouldn’t tolerate it but whenever I say anything I either get nothing at all back or told something has been forwarded to the person or team that needs to deal with it.

Thing is the people I talk to or e-mail are supposed to be my support – or support for carers. My advocates as it were. When your own advocates wont advocate for you it sort of leaves you feeling pretty unheard, useless and well… like pooh really.

No chance of a story leaving the confines of the department, the punishment for getting stroppy is pretty unbearable. I can’t threaten with anything – same unbearable consequences.

Every single person involved is a female and each situation to do with children. I liked that site though and am going to check it out further.

Belly I’ll go back to the first one asking what their job is supposed to be because if it is supporting me I actually need them to bloody step up and not pass the buck.

Jewely old mate you are between a rock and a hard place, you can not win.
The reason I am getting out the door so early is because I am dealing with 3 government instrumentality's.
You can not win, white wash is the only tool they use.
truth reason add up to nothing, self protection rules.
Fight only battles you can win.
Find an independent person to fight for you, BUT not in a way you can be blamed or hurt for actions they take.
You however prove my long held view, DOC,s are useless, not every one, just too many, just those with the real power.
Life can be interesting if we consider this threads title and intent.
Protect your self, ALWAYS but never ever give in, for my victims of government funded stupidity, I am the independent person.
My job? to NEVER let them take the blame for my actions even if they drove them.
And never ever let wank word bingo rule, get issues to the front.
Protection first remember to always be aware of that, great people, good people fall victim every day to government slothfulness.

piper quote<<..if you e-mail someone to do with work and they say they have forwarded it on to the appropriate person>>logic idicates you keep them 'informed'

so the form seems to be adress your next email to the person concerned[or rather to their supervisor[or over sight body]...as well as the one addressed...the one advised to adress[in short what was a single recipiant becomes a web of people getting the info

logic wqould deem that contacting the person its been handed off too ..asking them if they have the full facts [or just a brief...including the copies of the full fact...just in case

this beuro-roc-rat paper shuffeling is what the beurocracy does best...that and handing info over to people about to retire or go on long service

<<who has to deal with it>>....is the dept/head..its on their head

<<and then you never hear back…>>.thus the need to keep the contact going between the expanded group...ask for the new contact..to confirm the old brief...or their understanding of it...but its important for both to know eavch is sharing the heat and the knowing [of that issue..about which your complain/reveale/expound...raise]

<<Do you go back to the first person or follow up with or the person they forwarded your e-mail to?>>>BOTH...[and their minester and atourney general[state and fed]...form,..a possie...where your the sherrif..thus law in this matter...

you are not a serf begging the master....but the master..demanding govt...servants..give real true/....service...not sir-vice..for your wards/charges..children

G'Day All,
How are you all today well I hope.
The white washing by Government Departments is definitely imbedded into their system.
For the last 12 years the Director-General has been asked by all & sundry to reply direct to me in relation to my Son's case but who do I get? the very same people that I am complaining about.
This is the way their mentality works, I have a complaint with you so I go above your hedad & that person gives the complaint back to you to investigate that complaint, while the one above you write & say my concerns aere being addressed.
Then after you investigate the complaint about yourself you say that there is no basis to my complaint. This just goes around & around. Then they say that I am just an angry & violent man.
I suppose I am after my son is removed by an allegation that DoCS say that they never believed in the first place but my child is still locked from me.
Thanks All for your time have a great day from Dave.
One before I go, If you are an Aussie before you go into the toilet & you are an Aussie when you come out of the toilet. What are you in the toilet. Urapeeing(European) told by a 10 year old to the my ex

Okay Belly and OUG, I just go back to everyone, find out who was forwarded my e-mail (I was told a team – no individuals) and then keep at all of them. They are masters of not replying until they need you for something. And yeah I bet I am being too nice about all of it AGAIN. I kind of always start with the Hi how are you... hope your week is going well… could you help me with this I am a bit worried…

I’m a pansy.

Dave any letter from a Dir-Gen will probably leave you enraged. They write stuff like “we look forward to your continued support” even when you have just made a formal complaint. You get no answers and I heard the one in your state was even worse. And yes the people you complain about usually end up in your home explaining policy to your face.

I have had numerous e-mails and meetings about children, ridiculas amounts of time taken up and they absolutely do not mention the actual children. They will talk policy and what in general is put in place in different situations but they will not talk about a specific situation. You sit there thinking “Oh my god they seriously believe I have the IQ of a small shellfish, they think they are appeasing me”. Along with thoughts of “this is why hubby pays tax?”.

Whistler will like this one, last situation I was in dragged on for months until Hubby stepped in and with one fax from him I was acknowledged, another stupid meeting ensued and I got a decent letter that directly addressed what I said.