examinator

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I firmly believe that there are lessons to be learned from the successful communities and those lessons can be applied elsewhere. Noel Pearson has talked a lot about this subject and I would not do him justice by attempting to condense what he has said.

It is unreasonable to imagine that government ought sit back and wait to good things to happen, if ever and the taxpayer is rightly demanding improved accountability for expenditure and grants.

Cornflower

Don't have time for a full post. But just wanted to say, I think you have raised some excellent points; there ARE successful communities so why not more?

Ciao

A. Dobrowich,
Fair point I think may have miss the implied point that neither culture can be rated higher that the other.
I debate your double concept that
a. if they want what we go they need to assimilate why?
b. That they're wallowing and going no where...To me they both seem to have overtones of superiority.
We are technologically more advanced but I would argue with some grounds that it is we who could learn from them...
That doesn't imply we should go back to 'stoneage ' hunter gatherers that is unnecessarily simplistic.
But we could learn to stop living the magic pudding syndrome or the 'I'm alright jack and bugger everyone else learned indifference'
Likewise one can't undo the damage mass culture arrogance wreaked but we could borrow in fact exercise their individual importance and individual solutions as opposed the demonstratively failed one size fits no one concept.
Then and only then Do I believe we will live in mutual respect.

Fractelle

Thank you. What is rewarding is to see groups of women stepping forward to represent their needs. Someone has to break the cycle and I am sure that is where the positive advances will come from - the women with the help of some men.

Cornflower

I used to work in Public Housing in Victoria. I mostly assisted immigrants (and junkies, ex-cons), but occasionally encountered Kooris, although they had a separate housing program from everyone else. What I learnt, however, is if you want to get something done, you contact the matriarch of the clan or family, arrange a meeting and talk.

I hope that more women step forward, the Koori women I have known were the foundation for everything, even though they did not necessarily put themselves forward.

That there are successful communities is reason to hope and I agree with Examinator that a 'one-size-fits-all' is not the way to go. The Howard Intervention, whatever it did or did not achieve lacked one essential value - RESPECT.

MaryE “Hello Col. "Aboriginal" is the adjective, "Aboriginee" is the noun. Thank you.”

Yes it is a sad when you see an opportunity to talk down to someone else

But you bungle it with a spelling mistake, MaryE

Either sad

or maybe

retribution for trying too hard to be up yourself

or maybe

just plain old stupid.



Pontificator “Your mental agility and prejudices can be compared to the physical agility of a Dreadnought....20 odd miles to turn around to catch up with the action.... no wonder they're obsolete.”

Hardly, the way I see it, it is you who are being outflanked on all side

But as we are in nautical mode if I would be likened to a “Dreadnought”

You would surely be likened to a garbage barge..

the amount of crap you seem to haul around with you.

“Being that I'm a 'whitey' I think I'm entitled to sling off at us.”

Whatever you claim your origins might be no one has a free pass to “sling off” at me,

(and “whitey” did not even figure in my assessment of your origins, based on your use of English, which reads as if it is not your “mother tongue” but again, there are also a lot of pig ignorant Brits around),



Banjo “So often racism is blamed for things, when it is nothing more than apathy, Yes apathy by us, by governments, bureaucrats and aboriginals and their community leaders.”

Agree but add to that an over developed sense of “righteous entitlement” (for whatever reason).



Regarding the various expert opinions on “suitable housing”,

maybe someone should ask the person who the residence is intended to house.

and if a tent is the solution don’t knock it. Tents have been used as the primary residence for centuries in remote locations around the world.

The grand pontificator “can't undo the damage mass culture arrogance wreaked but we could borrow in fact exercise their individual importance and individual solutions as opposed the demonstratively failed one size fits no one concept.”

Yes, well that is one of the eternal failings of "big government / socialism"