runner,
I truely am amazed at just how astute you are.

All the time I have been posting on OLO I have been keeping my REAL leanings secret and now you have blown my cover. No one else has picked up on that. I dips me lid to you.

Although my undercover work has been exposed, I am amused that many posters, may actually have had to take time out to clean up their monitors and keyboards after reading your revelations. That will give me chuckles for about a week.

Oh and CJM forgot to include Leigh in his list of lefties. Leigh will be offended, I'm sure.

"And your comment to guard rails is fallacious rubbish."

To you maybe, Col, but it's not to everybody. Your argument assumes that everybody has access to perfect information on the topic of abortion and that some girls and women who would otherwise not engage in the practice can't easily drift into the wrong crowd and do it through peer pressure. Putting a guard rail at the top of the cliff at least has the effect of protecting the people who wouldn't normally do it. Those who really want to, will jump the fence as you say, but the fence was never really built for their benefit anyway.

It's almost a waste of time arguing on this topic, what with your superior quality of argument and all. But if the TRUTH be known, abortion is a bad practice. And the bottom line is that you support it because it reinforces your overall libertarian argument. I guess that the real truth on this topic will be revealed when the Berlin Wall that divides the harder-line libertarians (and supporters) from the rest of us crumbles.

Col Rouge, you may not think Doctors are the sole arbitors of common sense, but they are the only ones at present legally able to prescribe any drugs that may be needed for euthanasia.

So, unless you plan to suggest other methods of euthanasia such as shooting, stabbing, poisons etc, then I suggest you deal with the fact that Doctors will need to be involved!

RobP, I am not a supporter of abortion as such, but I do support a womans right to choose.
No one, least of all an unrelated male, has any right to force a woman to go through with a pregnancy if she chooses not to.

It is rightfully legal to have an abortion and it should be decided between a woman, her partner and her Doctor.

The right-to-lifers should be turning their attention to improving contraception information and improved availability if they want to decrease the number of abortions.

Hello Col Rouge, my phrase "under strict medical supervision" is not a load of rubbish as you say. You have completely misunderstood it. By "under strict medical supervision" I was referring to the actual final act of taking one's own life. Despite what some would prefer to believe, the FACT is that some people botch their own euthanasia, and they end up suffering worse than ever. By having the actual act of "legalised" euthanasia performed by a medically qualified person, the chances of botching it are greatly reduced. Col, would you prefer euthanasia to be performed under the conditions of the old backyard abortions? No, I thought not. That's why it's important, in fact VITAL, that euthanasia be performed at a suitable location under strict medical supervision. Anything less shows a heartless disrespect for those terminally ill people who wish to take their own life. Thank you.

Hello belly, depression is a mental illness. Depressed people often make decisions that they wouldn't make when not depressed. Allowing a depressed person to commit euthanasia would show a disrespect towards that person. Thank you.

Dear Yabby,

The more publicity cases (like the one you've described
on this thread) receive - the more media attention is
generated, the more public support is obtained - MP's
may finally be forced to do something about the legislation.

We can only hope.

Personally I feel that the legislation will eventually
be decriminalised - the only question is - when?

Fingers-crossed it will be in my lifetime.
I would not like to be kept alive by machines once I've
lost my functional and mental independence.

Dear Fractelle,

As I wrote to Yabby - fingers-crossed that there
will be enough of a push from the public to
eventually force MPs into action. With an aging
population surely this is inevitable...