*Sure the man should be allowed refuse food and medication like many others have done in the past.*

Ah Runner, you are all heart. You don't mind if the man's only option
is to starve to death, over a number of weeks.

As it happens, he requested that, but the nursing home where he is
based, want to know their legal position, even the State Nurses
Federation agrees that State law is not clear.

The thought of making his exit a little easier, like we do with dogs
and cats for instance, goes way over your head it seems, such is
your compassion.

*Many a young boy or girl have had a genuine desire to die when they have broken up with their boy or girlfriend.*

What a silly comparison to this man's situation. They are like
chalk and cheese.

But there we have it of course. Some so called Xtians just want
their ticket to heaven. They lack even an ounce of empathy for
the suffering of others. Shame on you Runner, you are a disgrace
to your claimed religion

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A MIND IN A JAR

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I must confess that I do not know the details of this case. However, I do know that if one of my loved ones were in a similar situation, as I understand it, and he or she clearly expressed to me the wish to die, then I would arrange for this to be done in the best possible conditions available today wherever it may be on earth.

I would be most grateful if the reciprocal would apply provided my benefactor did not incur any risk of penal or other punitive action throughout the remainder of his or her life.

If that were against the principles of any god or gods, or some other supernatural being, whether real or imaginary, then I would obviously have to deal with that at some later stage and accept the consequences whatever they may be, as would my benefactor, unfortunately, if the reciprocal were to apply (but that would be his or her decision, not mine).

Please let me know if I have overlooked anything. I prefer to think about it now rather than to wait until the last minute.

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suffering is wrong...for all athiest's know this is the only life they will have...i thank god im not in his position...dependance on others is a difficult thing to take

i really have no right to say anything..one way or the other..[so will let jesus speak 1 corinthians 3;16-22]...in the context of 1-3

1 Corinthians 3
1And I,..brethren,..could not speak unto you..as unto spiritual,..but as unto carnal,..even as unto babes in Christ.

2I have fed you with milk,..and not with meat:..for hitherto ye were not able to bear it,..neither yet now are ye able.

3For ye are yet carnal:..for whereas there is among you envying,..and strife,and divisions,..are ye not carnal,and walk as men?

13Every man's work shall be made manifest:for the day shall declare it,because it shall be revealed by fire;..[note fire =passion..consuming passion]..and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

14If any man's work abide..which he hath built thereupon,..he shall receive a reward.

16Know ye not..that ye are..the temple of God,..

and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

17If any man defile the temple of God,..him shall God destroy;..for the temple of God is holy,..which temple...ye are.!

18Let no man deceive himself...If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world,..let him become a fool,..that he may be wise.

19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God...For it is written,..He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

20And again,..The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise,..that they are vain.

21Therefore let no man glory in men...For all things are your's;

22Whether Paul,or Apollos,or Cephas,or the world,..or life,or death,..or things present,or things to come;..all are your's

Runner,
When I was a child I went to Sunday school and when I grew older I left my faith because I realized that adults did not practise the Christianity that I was told about. Most were hypocrits.

If everybody really tried to be Christ like and followed his teachings we would have little world problems.

Some, like you, seem to lack the compassion that I think a Christian should feel and what, I think, the Christ I was told about would hold for others. Do you really think your Christ would condemn others to suffer?

I suggest you have a good hard look at yourself and your beliefs.

I do not profess to be of faith, but i reckon I am a far more compassionate person than you.

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EUTHANASIA

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My brother and I grew up with a dog called Nippy. Somebody left the gate open one day and a little pup just a few weeks old trotted in.

We called him Nippy because he was on our side when we got into fights with some of our cousins. He used to nip their backsides until they let us up.

When he grew up Nippy no longer had to wait until somebody opened the gate. He could jump over the fence. He was pretty smart too. One day the river broke its banks and there was a huge flood that came right through the house. Without anybody asking him Nippy swam around grabbing the chickens in his mouth rescuing them from drowning by putting them up on the roof of the hen house.

When I was twenty, Nippy had great difficulty getting around. He was old and tired and looked pretty miserable. He was half blind and couldn't hear too well either. So, one day, good old Uncle Roy, who had more or less inherited our dear childhood friend when my brother and I left home, decided that the time had come to put poor old Nippy out of his misery.

My brother and I greeted the news with heavy hearts but also with a profound feeling of relief. We dearly loved old Nippy and were very grateful to Uncle Roy for bravely taking Nippy to the vet to be picked. That was nearly a half a century ago, but I can still see that almost imperceptible glimmer in Nippy's eyes when we exchanged a final glance, like the glow of the last rays of the sun as it slowly sets over the horizon.

Nippy has been gone a long time now. Dear old Uncle Roy has too and I am afraid that, when my time comes, I will not be able to receive the benefit of the same loving compassion as Nippy.

When I look back on the life of Nippy, I think to myself that a dog's life is not so bad after all.

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UOG has gone to great lengths to quote scripture for the rest of us to ignore…. The bit UOG just does not get is

His religious franchise.. the one he is signed up with

Is not the same as the rest of us so

Regardless of Corinthians or any other texts

Except for himself, his membership rules do not apply.

And runner… I can argue how the rights of the pregnant woman prevail over the rights of a fetus, without referencing the “emotive rape cases” and without reference to scripture.

Rob P – yes the choices of one are foisted on the other…

and I believe the one who gets to make that choice (the pregnant woman), should not be your limited to what you would "foist" upon her.