Ah,

I get it. You work in the public service don't you? You're afflicted with the same waffle-mania that Kevin Rudd is. I'm sorry, you should have explained, I would have made allowances

Houllie

<< I'm doing wonders with Fraccy. Did you know she's starting to become more gender-blind in how she relates to posters! >>

You gauche, ignorant creep.

You are very recent to this forum, anyone who has followed my posts for a long period of time such as R0bert, CJ and other long time contributors know how consistent I am with my opinions. That the likes of you assume that I am generalising about men because I don't preface every friggin' post with the disclaimer "this post is only about a very small subset of men", when the overall context already indicates the type of people I am referring to, clearly spent too much time hawking spit bombs at the classroom ceiling instead of learning anything.

As for the comments on rape, such as:

<< MaryE:"I believe rape should not be diminished."

Should it be exaggerated? '

That sir, deserves a round of applause! clap clap clap... >>

Comparing rape to murder is ludicrous, oxymoronic - simply a switch and bait tactic - haven't you noticed a pattern to A-septic's posts here? He uses every opportunity to trivialise any woman's POV.

BTW R0bert

I usually hold your opinion in high regard even if I do not agree, but to say you haven't noticed the personalised, insulting malice that accompanies 90 % of A-septic's posts leaves me gob-smacked.

Fractelle:"Comparing rape to murder is ludicrous, oxymoronic"

Do why would Karen Wills (the manager of the NSW Rape Crisis Centre) do so, do you think?

Fractelle, I've noticed Antiseptic doing that (no check on the percentage) but I've also noticed a very high rate of personalised attacks on Antiseptic from a variety of posters. Have a read through CJ's history, especially the posts directed at Antiseptic and try and determine how much is content vs insult. I found the post http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2970#68737 particularly gaulling

"Of course, if someone makes comments that are vile and/or creepy repeatedly and over an extended period of time, then reasonable readers can infer that the person who makes such comments is probably vile and/or creepy.

Less enlightened types can infer, of course, that such a vile creep is an "excellent fellow"."

I think better of CJ than that and was hoping that he might consider how his attacks on Antiseptic reflect on himself. I also liked his comments to glorfindel at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=9278#148009 and wondered about the parallels with attitudes to Antiseptic.

I've disagreed with Antiseptic with some regularity, I attempt to treat him with the same courtesy which I try and treat other posters who I disagree with who have not gone out of their way to be rude to me. I may not get the balance right but I do try.

I'd tried to ignore the whole to and fro between Antiseptic and others, everyone involved seems to play the game but I've got rather tired of the snipping from the sidelines.

There are far nastier people than Antiseptic around OLO. As I've tried to point out to Antiseptic and others at times and more recently to Formersnag keeping feminists constantly under personal attack is hardly going to bring out the best in them, I also doubt that constantly attacking Antiseptic will bring out the best of him or improve the discussions around here (except for those who delight in brawling).

R0bert

I lost track, I thought exterminator was telling me off but wasn’t sure so went back to the beginning which is probably what I should have done in the first place.

StG “The furore began when Kyle Sandilands stated straight after the admission, "Right, so is that the only experience you've had?". IMO, the furore began when they approved questioning a minor about illegal activities and passing it off as entertainment to thousands of listeners...”

I am very guilty of not reading your original post properly. So it wasn’t the girl saying anything about rape at whatever age etc it was this Kyle dudes lack of compassion and they way he launched in to the next question?

I’m guessing they knew the disclosure was coming? So this was a planned returned question to the disclosure?

Isn’t it a really strange question? I mean really really strange like we’ve seen lawyers on movies asked alleged victims of rape? Is a victim called the “alleged” victim? The kind of question trying to make out alleged victim was a tramp to start with – not quite appropriate when addressing a child.

But your opinion is that it was sensationalizing illegal activities but not her illegal activities? Or had she disclosed some other stuff?

So to be accurate do we blame Kyle and Jacky or whoever the bosses are that approved the show, which is reminding me of the NRL thing and their bosses.

Anti: “If it turns out the claim is false, does that make it somehow less bad?”

Nah I don’t think it would. Unless talking about buttercups and daisies I guess we have to keep kids off the air. The problem I see with protecting children to such a degree is no one ever hears about the *bad things that happen to them and the public forgets *bad things happen to them.

*Rape, Murder, Starvation, Neglect, Emotional Abuse, Physical Abuse, Sexual Abuse, Shaming, Scapegoating, ad infinitum.

PP,
Me tell you off...good grief perish the thought.
Contrary to common misconceptions I "tell" no one off that would assume I feel I'm superior.....I don't.
What I often do is try to inject a little objectivity in to conversations because I can see some people being unnecessarily hurt/offended etc.
Everyone has the right to express their opinions but as I say why does that have to be in terms of a schoolyard bully with name calling, baiting etc. All of which tends to be counter productive and conversation stifling.
I simply make observations the idea being break the angst momentum.
Does this make me supercilious or pompous ? I answer this way
"all evil needs to succeed is for good people to do nothing." if this brands me as something lessor then so be it at least I won't die wondering "if only"
Yes dear PP, I do over think issues. I am if nothing else consistent to my beliefs that of a secular Humanist and that life simply isn't that simple and I'm alwauys learning.