wasnt sure about this topic from the start...but have noticed a systemised attack on men..[or more specificly fathers...that begun long before the simpsonesque homer father type

see how many sitcom's get their rhyme and reason from emascul;ating the father figure as an imbisile or sterio typical retard of some form or other

we have long noticed the feminisation of the male[have obseerved the estrogens emoinating from plastic are doing their bit hormonally..[have observed the falling sperm counts...

who can pretend suprise that now..the means to retain your manhood involve a phalic penetration of your nostril cavity...to help you feel more like a man

you have to love this subtill realignment of just what a man must be to be a man...you lot of defaulting fathers are on notice...

dont pretend..to feel your warm fuzzy femine side...you have become that you loved...how to find the right word..your a lot of cats...nope kittens...no puppies..getting closer...numbnutters

butt no..your a mob of ppp...forgive the spelling of it..pud pulling pathetic paternal putrabrances..postulating perpetualised prostalic proclamations...preporting perpetual prosperity of the personable paternal pooofutta ...

perpurloining perculularities particular to patriarchal paticipant particularities..prevailing perpetually particulrilly per pervieuwing pressingly pert perversions..pre-ejeculating pressing proclamations preceeding persistant portent purposly predestined purveyance portaining persistantly..pressingly permantly per persuant prepubesnt pussies..polaXED per propagandist postulations persistant portrayed personalised persistantly per privatised productions programed persistantly into pestulant predicktive programing

It all depends on how you look at things. In the 'good ol days' women were frigid. Now, it seems the modern attitude is that men must be sexual athletes and every sex session the women must orgasm 15 times before she says, 'ok, you may finish now'.

'Wham bam thank you Ma'am' has been replaced by 'Think of your Granma or Thatcher for 2 hours trying not to enjoy yourself, because no woman cums too slowly yo'know, you're just inadequate.'

I think the phrase that comes to mind is 'Own your Orgasm'.

Really man. People should lighten up. I seem to remember sex is supposed to be fun. Somebody has to come first! But what's wrong with continuing in other ways until both people are satisfied. There's lots more to sex than penetration.

Aww yeah
That`s right baby.
Girl, tonight we`re gonna make love. You know how I know, baby? `Cause it`s Wednesday. And Wednesday night is the night that we make love. Tuesday night`s the night that we go and visit your mother, but Wednesday night is the night that we make love. `Cause everything is just right conditions are perfect. There`s nothing good on TV. Conditions are perfect. You lean in close and say something sexy like, "I might go to bed I`ve got work in the morning." I know what you`re trying to say baby. You`re trying to say, "Oh, yeah. It`s business time. It`s business time."

It`s business.
It`s business time.
That`s what you`re trying to say you`re trying to say let`s get down to business it`s business time.

It`s business.
It`s business time.
Next thing you know we`re in the bathroom brushing our teeth. That`s all part of it, that`s foreplay. Then you go sort out the recycling. That`s not part of it but it`s still very important. Then we`re in the bedroom. You`re wearing that ugly old baggy t-shirt from that team building exercise you did for your old work. And it`s never looked better on you.

Oh, team building exercise `99.

Oh, you don`t know what you`re doing to me.
I remove my jeans but trip over them `cause I still got my shoes on. But I turn it into a sexy dance.
Next thing you know I`m down to just my socks and you know when I`m down to just my socks what time it is�it`s time for business. It`s business time.

It`s business.
It`s business time.
You know when I`m down to just my socks it`s time for business that`s why they call it business socks.

It`s business.
It`s business time.
Oh.
Ooh, makin` love.
Makin` love for two.
Makin` love for two minutes.
When it`s with me you only need two minutes, `cause I`m so intense. Two minutes in heaven is better than one minute in heaven. You say something like, "Is that it?" I know what you`re trying to say. You`re trying to say, "Aww yeah, that`s it." Then you tell me you want some more. Well I`m not surprised. But I`m quite sleepy.

It`s business.
It`s business time.
Business hours are over. Right, right.

It`s business.
It`s business time.

I hope some the people flogging these products can be in the future more subtle and creative.I'm not bagging the product if they satisfy a need and do work.I wonder if they realise that their advertising is a having a reverse effect.

I noticed Col was quiet of late.I'm happy for you Col.I hope it all works out.

Cheers all.

Houellebecq I am not quite sure about your Wednesday roster.

When I met my fiancé, on our second to sixth date, which took place on consecutive days, several times during this time I said to her.. ah this is all foreplay… which she initially did not understand but that is exactly what it was … and glorious it was too.. the building of intimate tensions, prolonged over time, rather than being spent too soon….

Like you said “There's lots more to sex than penetration.”

And then, of course, there is après-play… which not some analytical dissection to speed / lowness, positions ticked off or performance standards ……

but just relaxing and enjoying the soft afterglow….

Arjay “I noticed Col was quiet of late.I'm happy for you Col.I hope it all works out.”

Thank you Arjay..

Being quiet…. Yes, I have been diverted upon more important matters for the past couple of months (fledgling lurve……)

And to working out…… it most certainly will

No Arjay, I feel it's up to us to give these poor imagination challenged add people, something easy to do, & it does help the feminists with their inferiotity complexes.

There are a lot of small minded people in our communities, & it's up to us to help them out, with something to laugh at, or at very least, something to talk about. If they are so small minded they have nothing better than me to talk about, they have my sympathy, & I feel obliged to help.

I can't get anywhere near Col, [good on you mate, may you both have fun], as far as a tongue wagging topic, but I have just put my big V8 engined, 30 year old sports car back on the road, after an 18 month restoration. This one's a convertible, so it's much easier to get into, & out of.

Come to think of it, I did have my gorgeous 20 year old daughter come with me to a classic car show a few weeks back, & then drive the coupe in convoy with me to another. Perhaps I have made it to the dirty old man class, with all the new chums around here.

Probably not, a mate told me a couple of the younger new chums were asking where they could meet the beautiful "new" chick. She only lived here for 16 years,