Dear Antiseptic,

I believe that a healthy, vital society
is not one in which we all agree. It's one
in which those who disagree can do so
with honour and respect for other peoples'
opinions, and an appreciation of our shared
humanity. Without personal commitment to
the attributes of fair play and integrity,
our country is in grave danger ...

What I'm trying to say is that there is a
tendency on so many people's parts to think
that their way is the right way and that
people who disagree with them are somehow
flawed.

We can disagree vehemently yet appropriately.
Why can't disagreement be respectful?
Disrespect, labelling, personal insults - they
poison us more than either side's position in
the argument ever could.

There is nothing more unpleasant for me, for
example than to see a man/woman stripped of their power.
We all have the power to diminish. I've watched it happen
in my own home. It's far better to respect a man/woman
who have their own life, their own excitment, their own
passion. Celebrate that in them, honour their variety
and their power. The next time you tell them - "You're
an idiot..." or continue to jab at what you view as
their weaknesses, ask yourself - is this how you want
to be treated?

A-septic

Call me any damn thing you like. In fact lets step outside, like to find out how rusty my Tae Kwon Do is these days.

You should try talking out of your mouth for a change instead of blithering out the other end on about topics of which you have no understanding. As for "home-counselling" your own children if they were ever in need, I believe that should be called "child-abuse". Not once on any of the numerous topics of this website, have you demonstrated a shred of empathy or understanding for other's experiences or feelings.

Nor do you appear to even read my threads, if there is one thing I am it is consistent in my views, while I can and do learn from others and alter my perspective I am still Fractelle and will speak out as I choose on what I choose and there is nothing you can do to silence me - bully.

Haha, this thread is just too funny!

Fractelle,

Just like gays decide to own the word gay, I have decided to own the psychopath label you applied to me not that long ago.

You're very quick to shout 'liar' aren't ya. Reminds me of the time you called 6 posters 'liars', were proven wrong, but couldn't bring yourself to accept it.

'misrepresentations of the male gender'

That's just bizarre. You are absolutely obsessed with gender issues. You really do need help. Has no woman ever disagreed with you? Do none of these male posters also disagree with other male posters? Are men in your little world put into categories of the nice ones and nasty ones, like you assume men put all women into f*ckable and non-f*ckable categories?

'Graham Young would ban me in an instant. I guess that is why I vented my ire towards you, Foxy. I apologise if you took offence.'

Oh yes. Now we're getting somewhere. Just perhaps, it is you that has the problem. A problem with your own fear in dealings with men and confrontation. Cant help reflexively seeing yourself as a victim. So you lash out at a nice lady like Foxy because those brutish men are all in a conspiracy to get you.

'only have to express an opinion while being female to be labeled[sic]. '
Oh I understand. One only has to express an opinion while being male to be labelled a psychopath! See how silly your constant crying about this is? Why cant you just accept that people disagree, male and female. Why are you obsessed about the gender all the time?

'nothing you can do to silence me - bully.'
See this is more utter tosh. If someone disagrees with you they are trying to silence you? Why do you think people would bother? Are your words so dangerous and powerful that they need to be silenced?

I really, really wish you could understand that you have proved everything antiseptic has just said!

Do you really want to be in this hell you seem to be in of thinking when people disagree or say nasty things it's just because you're female and that people are trying to silence you? It's all in your head, let it go. It's such a scary reality you've created for yourself. The rest of us are here to have fun and trade a few jibes.

antiseptic,

'If she was a bloke I'd call her gutless.'
Now that's really sexist. What do you reckon Foxy?

Foxy,

That whole speel about being nice, after just calling me a w@nker because I dared to suggest your comment was sexist. Oh, that's right you're just joking. That's a common tactic of bullying. Excuse me for having an opinion while being male. I wont be silenced!

You watching Fraccy?

As pericles observed, this whole post is becoming “a slice-of-life”

But to bring us back on track I might ask Houellebecq

What is the fashion minded psychopath wearing this spring?

I personally waver between:

one of those hospital green rubber aprons accessorized with white, mid calf rubber boots mask and maybe a cheery hospital issue head scarf, all so convenient for repelling blood splatter, provided you can overcome the smell of latex.

Your basic “Existentialist / Goth” Black… something which my dear old mum used to worry about when yours truly was evolving.

Of course leather is always a popular choice, quite durable and brings its own mildly kinky charisma to a butchers party.

Maybe the double breasted suit (cheap or otherwise) is good for simply accommodating a wider range of cutlery, to better slice and dice ones victim.

Alternately, “Rivers” do a range of cheap, casual clothing, which is not too much a burden on the wallet, when we need to burn the blood soaked garments and presents us, through their name, with a convenient reminder to wash up after a disemboweling.

So H.. your view...... and don't be silenced.....

I know I never am...

occassionally banned and sometimes otherwise occupied but never silenced! LOL

OLO is becoming a bit Days of Our Lives.

Group hug anyone?