Runner, what branch of science confirms the existence of talking snakes and donkeys and proves that the earth is flat with angels standing at each corner?
If we didn't come from monkeys then it's obvious that we came from dirt.
What group is ruled by dogmas?

david f,
"secular humanism"
I understand the secular and I support it as I am atheist. My problem is with the humanism. Did you see it anywhere, or we must re-discuver or re-create it!
HUMANISM WANTED!
david f, where was you sir, why did you disappear for so long time?
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

David f I am one of those, not one word you say could not have come from me.
I want to highlight some of those, most who post here, who Dennie our right not to believe in a god, seem troubled.
I very much believe it to be a comfort blanket for those afraid to face reality.
And while I understand the good intentions of many they are matched by the harm done by all reildgions.
I have faith in the goodness of humans, after all we invented our own Gods, we do not have to be religious to be good people.
Runner? you follow your own road but remember you have no right to push others up the wrong track or to blame them for ideas you do not share.

Examinator wrote: There is in my mind, a world of difference between not believing in a supernatural God and A'ism.

Dear Examinator: There is in my mind, no difference between not believing in a supernatural God and A'ism. Atheism is not believing in a God. I know of no other kind of God than a supernatural God. Please explain the difference in your mind.

Dear Foxy,

The word, secular, is necessary because there is also religious humanism. This has a rich tradition which includes such individuals as Erasmus. Erasmus probably would have accepted points 5 and 6 that I mentioned. He would have rejected 1, 2 and possibly 3. He would have been unfamiliar with 4. When I was in Europe I visited Erasmus' home. I have read and greatly appreciated his "Praise of Folly". He was a genuine humanist but definitely not secular.

Dear Horus,

I haven't determined that secular humanism is better than other isms. I think it is a reasonable way to see the world. I don’t claim that my way is better or more right than your way.

Dear Otonoko,

If I were to get evidence that God exists I would accept the evidence. I think it more reasonable to assume that God is merely a human invention.

Wobbles asked: Why not just say that for sectarians, morality comes from the carrot and stick approach.

Dear Wobbles,

I can state what I believe without attacking those who believe something different.

Dear Antonios,

I have not disappeared. The fact you haven't been aware of my existence has not affected my continued existence. For a long while I was traveling along the south coast of Australia hiking and driving along the Great Ocean Road. There are magnificent spectacles there. The Chinese have the Yin-Yang symbol. In the dark side there is a light dot, and in the light side there is a dark dot. My belief is there there is a bit of secular humanism in every religious person and a bit of religious feeling in every secular humanist.

Dear runner,

May you attain a state of gruntlement.

Foxy,
I hear what you're saying, but nothing you've mentioned is unique to SH.

With all due respect- your post is a "before liberation .." speech
(Fellow Human could have said similar about Islam)

What is the X factor that makes SH superior?

It is obvious that humanism has adopted teachings as taught by Jesus Christ 1300 years earlier. That all men are equal, are to be respected and carry the dignity and image of Almighty God. Again Jesus taught the laws were made for men for moral boundaries; and not thet man were made for laws as posed by Judaism. Laws were a human construct, whereas social conscience and judgment based in love are a divine construct. This is emphasised also in Pauls writings 1 Corinthians 13 and 14.

Many today consider themselves SH merely to excusing their behaviours from social responsibility - I will do what feels right in my own conscience. Their conscience is not educated by respect for others but by self interest. Just listen to office conversations of how antagonists are spoken about