Cornflower
"If you really, truly, want to help your brothers and sisters in undeveloped countries you could be a champion for women's rights in those countries"
You have right, I agree with you.
Last week you asked me if the thread for paid maternity, paternity, parental leave was mine, yes was mine and if you read all my posts on this thread you will find that I support women' rights.
I think you will find some post of me on this forum where I support women' rights. I have written in 3-4 forum in Australia, USA and Greece and I think I wrote many times for women;s rights especialy in the Muslim world, many times I wrote against sharia law because it discriminate against women.
I signed many petitions for women' rights mainly with USA Amnesty or Human Rights First, I had in the past 2-3 web sites with some pages for women's rights etc.
Generaly you have right WE WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH REFUGEES AND ILEGAL MIGRANTS IF WE DO NOT CREATE THE SWEETABLE CONDITIONS IN UNDEVELOPED COUNTRIES. Sweetable conditions mean democracy, respect to human rights, including women' rights as abortion etc, mean free basic education for all children, mean basic health system, mean less corruption, fair international trade, mean rspect of workers rights etc.
Unfortunatly the catholic church, the biggest Cristian church in the world is against the abortion, condom or pil and it makes the control of population in undeveloped countries more difficult.
YOU HAVE RIGHT!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

You are all missing the point. Does Australia have enough to deal with when in reality we are all clans people. Yes that's right! and the real answer is, we all have to work a bit harder, but this name calling has to stop. What the hell is wrong with the people of today? Not the ten rats in box is it? Well maybe. The 19th born people will have the hardest times with it all, but don't let progress get in the way of a growing situation we will never control.

If you want more people in this world/ this works against all our instincts and this is whats needed if you all want to over-come the "who are you dilemma."

Its ALL FEAR.

But again! Whats new.

How do you get all faces together, I just don't know.

sock.

Ludwig,Banjo I find no reason to differ with one word of your last posts.
I admire C J Morgan, and understand he is further left than me, and often we must clash.
AS? while I find it harder each day to ignore what I truly believe is a clear anti Australian bias, is quite right.
Yes it is likely to be true 56%of Sydney siders may well be concerned about Muslims.
In fact that may be the percentage world wide, number me partly among them.
See the burning of Christians in Iraq?
Or read the hate against us all, from SOME of them, walked the streets of western Sydney?
Lets not highlight our faults alone AS may I ask you to produce figures to show how many Muslims dislike me, or us, or even people from your country of birth?
It is not unusual to be afraid of others, sadly it is human nature, if one Day we could dump religion ,all of it, we could start being one people.

My last post is troubling, even to me.
See at the heart of this thread is a truth we must not ignore.
Racism is ALWAYS wrong, but in debating this issue we should be honest.
Branding those who think differently is an effort to stop free speech, yes it is!
Refugee Migration, world wide will grow forever, if we let it.
Just consider a war, say between India and Pakistan.
Such a war could bring 50 million to leave one or both country's, tell me it can not happen.
North Korea starves its people, most never know they are brain washed, if they glimpsed the real world?
In time hopefully we will be able to take the blinkers off and see our world and its problems as it and they really are.
AS? you confront my country in many issues but not in a constructive way.
I would willingly have debate that is constructive but close down to your one sided slant on a world wide human issue

Nah! Belly, I have to disagree with you about Morgan.
He is not to be admired, he is to be pitied.
He does not think for himself, he merely regurgitates the most fashionably clichés of his narrow, barren subculture.

And as for his tactics –an old nursery rhyme puts it best:

Morgan CJ, puddin’ and pie
Called us names and told us lies
When the boys came out to fray
Morgan CJ, just, ran away.

Protagoras
My friend what happened with you? I said to you that you are a hard but smart woman, but I have known that you are a responsible person
In your last thread I think the anger took control of your mind!1. "Inciting racial hatred Antonios?" Do you show to me the path to the prison ? Do you try to drive me out from the fight for a better Australia?
I am afraid you realy hate me! Do you want to create to me REAL problems? Do not you know that my way is the best way to solve any important problem , instead to leave it to build up and get ouf of control? Do not you know that the beauty of democracy is that it allows us to detect and solve problems before they become big and threaten our societies?
2. "Oh for a boss who permits his employees to dabble away on debate forums at his expense!"
My friend what is this, do you try to create problems to me with my employer? Do you advise my employer to suck me? Do you mean that I am a lazy, irrisponsible employee who weast his working time on the forums instead to work?
Protagoras woke up! You took a dangerous, slipery path, you fully relised your fantacy and you use it against me! MY GOOD FRIEND I DO NOT HAVE OR SEE ANY COMPUTER IN MY WORK, YOU KNOW, A BASTARD MIGRANT WHO CLEANS THE FLOORS AND MACHINES FOR 16 YEARS IN THE SAME WORKPLACE!
Protagoras, calm, take a deep breath and try to understand me. We the migrants from non privilege race need a litle space to move arount, more oxygen to breath, I try to remind you your poor relatives! Are you angry for it?
GOD BLESS YOU AND I WISH THE HOLY SPIRIT TO SHOW YOU THE RIGHT PATH. AMEN!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide