Master

What absolute rot, the words Scout and master were never separated, when used it was one word. Here you go, familiarise yourself for when you next make that ridiculous claim:

http://www.pinetreeweb.com/aidstosm-2.htm

However, Leaders have been around for a very long time and it is surprising you didn't use the title.

You volunteered that you were tertiary qualified when you were slamming others for their ignorance. At the time I innocently asked what training you had but you avoided the question.

That you now bag me instead of answering proves that your claims are fabricated.

Cornyflower: "Master

What absolute rot, the words Scout and master were never separated..."

Yet in the first part of the link CF provides as evidence, we read:

<"His Qualities

AS A PRELIMINARY word of comfort to intending Scout masters...">

CF - your arguments are weak when you're just nitpicking and I can't be bothered with this non-argument approach. Enough.

Pynchme

Heh, heh, Master is in need of rescue isn't he?

However, there is no problem calling your reply BS. It was the fault of poor editing as you will see if you read further. Of course you would have read further but preferred to use the mistake to cover up Master's similar error - excepting he should have realised his title was incorrect, which he did not.

Interesting you always appear when your Master is found to have no clothes and he needs voluminous skirts to hide behind. Quite the Jeannie aren't you?

BTW, you haven't go a spare mail order qualification you could lend Master perchance? He seems to have lost one that he never had. Maybe you could rustle up a misprint somewhere and he could claim that.

Again to confirm, there is no such thing as a 'Scouts Master', which is the title your Master laid claim to.

I think you're the one in need of rescue CF.

I don't know a lot about Scouts but as a child I sometimes holidayed on a property where Scouts and Guides held camping get togethers.

I thought my father-in-law was a Rover so asked hubby about it. He said his father was an Assistant Scout Master. I asked if he was called anything else and he said he thought it was officially changed to 'Leader' but that older members still used the term Scout Master.

I have often heard the term Scout Master and thought your post exceedingly trivial.

Go Google. The use of terms seems to vary between countries and over the history of Scouting and perhaps the age of the member.

For example:
<"Adult leaders
The Baden-Powell Scouts' Association continue to use the traditional title of Scoutmaster. Other adult leaders in the Scout Troop are called Assistant Scout Masters. Other titles include Cub Scout Master, Assistant Cub Scout Master and so on. The Group is led by a Group Scout Master. In common with The Scout Association, adult leaders are sometimes referred to as Scouters...">

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scout_Leader

The original Scout Law, written by Lord Baden-Powell, appeared in 1908 and is as follows:

A Scout's honour is to be trusted
A Scout is Loyal to the King and to his officers, and to his country, and to his employers.
A Scout's duty is to be useful and to help others.
A Scout is a friend to all and a brother to every other Scout, no matter to what social class the other belongs.
A Scout is Courteous.
A Scout is a friend to animals.
A Scout obeys orders of his patrol leader or scout master without question.
A Scout smiles and whistles under all circumstances.
A Scout is thrifty.
In 1911, 8 was modified and 10 was added:
8. A Scout smiles and whistles under all difficulties.
10. A Scout is clean in thought, word and deed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baden-Powell_Scouts%27_Association

Now can you try to discuss something a little more meaningful instead of trying to score points on trivia.

Pynchme

Confess, I bet you found the usual title was one word, not two when you trawled around the Net and you never found 'Scouts Master'. BP referred to Scoutmaster.

You know very well that your Master referred to himself as a 'Scouts Master', which is a most unusual title. In fact it doesn't exist.

Now anyone who had had a formal role in scouting in Australia (or anywhere else) would have been precise and correct. He was neither and made two errors not one.

Mangling titles used in the US with those used in Australia and the UK does nothing to relieve his misery.

Now about the other thing, have you found a slightly used qualification for your Master?

Pynchme, I guess our poor ol' Cornflower just doesn't like me showing to readers here, that Rugby League is indeed "Thugby" League.

So what does our little Cornflower do in retaliation?

He - - -

1) decides that the term "Scout master" never existed (my adding of the "s" to Scout was a typo by the way)

2) because I purposely declined to tell him what I studied at Uni back in the mid 1940s, he's concluded that it's all a terrible and shocking lie: I suspect he believes this refusal to answer him means my credibility regarding my points about Thugby League has now been forever undermined - - - thanks of course to Cornflower's brilliant and incisive detective work.

Here's my reply to both of his irrelevant points (that is, irrelevant to the topic of Thugby League) - - - - - - -

1) Well my dear Cornflower, you CLEARLY have ZERO knowledge about scouting (other than random internet searches), and ZERO association with scouting. For your edification regarding the MUCH used term "Scout Master" within scouting (especially in bygone days) please read this history of the Scotch College 1st Hawthorn Scouts, with whom I had an association with, amongst quite a few other Troops in the good old days http://www.scotch.vic.edu.au/Service/Scouts/history.htm

Yes Cornflower, read it and weep. You'll see "Scout Master" was INDEED a term used within scouting.

Then apologise - - - if you're man enough! But I doubt you are.

2) No, I'm still not telling you what I studied at University. I don't want to destroy your personal fantasy that I'm really an uneducated buffoon who's been brainwashed by femminazis into thinking only bad boys play League. Oh what the heck, I'll give you a clue anyway. Here's the "clue", I've been on the land for most of my life. There ya go little Cornflower, now "try" to work it out. It's not hard.