- - - - - regardless of what he writes. Let him get his much needed "last word" in, then totally ignore him. Talk, discuss and debate amongst yourselves if you wish, but without reference to the misogynist.

Master

You should take your own advice, preferably after familiarising yourself with OLO rules.

Antiseptic:

The figures to which I refer were from the article YOU posted. The article said:

<"Shocking figures have revealed that the number of women who have been charged with domestic violence-related assault has soared by 159 per cent over the past eight years.

The figures, from the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics, show 2336 women faced court on charges of domestic violence in 2007, mainly for bashing their husbands, compared with just 818 in 1999.">

So it was't referring to hospitalizations at all, and your hysteria is just another example of the 'misinformation' (lies) that you and your cohorts spread about; including your lies about women abusing children. (Fractelle your response is great :) no need for me to elaborate further on that one).

You're quoted below along with the pages on which the references can be found:

"The media-grrls are now dominant in everything except "hard news" and finance journalism and they are going to want to flex their muscle to help their "sisters" in all those entitlement-based groups.

Just as an example, try to find this story anywhere in the on-line press as a clickable link

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/comments/0,,25669606-23272,00.html

(p. 15)

The same sites that have buried that story about the massively escalating violence being perpetrated by women against their male partners have much older, (p.16)"

Btw - I have no connection with any organizations that you listed, as far as I can see. I have no special interest (not that it's any of your biz), unlike yourself.

Anyway, PP; Fractelle, Romany, CJ; Whistler, pppp - Sancho, :); Master - I am taking Romany and Master's advice and going to get on with what I should be doing elsewhere instead of providing that platform. Btw I have been so heartened to meet all you great blokes here - thank you!)

Okay Master. Help me instead. I am having two problems with a mixture of males and females.

1. DoCS will not go check on children if placed with an NGO, I have no understanding of why they will admit blame but refuse to be part of any solution. At this point I give up on the children being helped but I would like to understand why DoCS are scared of NGO's and I would dearly like to know who is going to help any child in the future placed with any NGO.

2. Being told a number of times that I am not blacklisted when the reality is that since I first complained about DoCS treatment of children they have not placed a single short term child with me.

It also appears I have been set up by being asked to take children for respite that they knew were too old and would not fit in my toddler beds and then stated we were the ones refusing children.

So do you think there is some time limit on this punishment or it's going to be permenant and I should let the children go that I have now and find something else to do with my life?

I have no idea what else I will do either.

Jewels, I would think the best way to clear up any misunderstandings would be for you to address your concerns, "in person" (definitely NOT by phone). One thing I've found when dealing with Govt. Departments is to NEVER, EVER take the word or opinion of "one" public servant. If you don't get satisfaction from a particular public servant, then seek to engage the next level in the relevant department, and it's important to do it "in person". The best way to "accurately" understand how govt. depts. work is to engage in "genuine" communication. Govt. Depts. are often terrible to deal with, but in my experience I've found that perseverance usually prevails. I've never dealt with DOCS so I can't offer help that's specific to DOCS.

But "genuine" communication is always the "key" to understanding.

Piper

What Master says .... and in writing - always keep a record. Also if the person you see isn't helpful, try again, chances are the next person will actually turn out to be human, there are some humans in a bureaucracy, you just have to be able to find them. Try going in the morning, if the officer on duty is an a-hole, then try again at lunch-time when some-one else may be rostered on.

And take some photos of the type of housing you are offering - photos of those little beds so that there is no excuse for sending you older children than you are able to manage. Just a thought.

Cheers

PS

Thanks Pynchme