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To Carbonate or Not?

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What if it's not the brakes doing what Bazz?

You can call the mechanic a liar and accuse him of looking for extra money for telling you that you probably should do something about the brakes, but as I said, the brakes may not fail before something else does.

And OUG, since the car is the planet in this metaphor, I'm not surprised you claim to not have one.
Posted by Bugsy, Thursday, 18 June 2009 2:20:19 PM
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isnt the use of metapwhores yet another form of non reply..[its usually accompanied by other smart mouth replies..[or insults]but us cabal warning hollocaust deniers..are used to not getting a factual rebuttal[its accepted as par for the course]

ask one of the highpriests how much of the earth we would need to cover with solar cells[they talk about a few deserts[now here is the rub, everyday enough heat falls onto the land..[from the sun]there is the real problem..

[those moonstruck global warming deniers hate the sun]..because thats whats doing the warming..[if we have a few more cloudy days we have cooling of the annual mean..[a few more cloudless days we have warming[go figure its warmer in summer]and the climate changes

then we come across the fearfilled hollowcost prophets of doom[saying when the temp rises a few degrees[we get wholsale extinctions[little seeing the folly is exposed..by things such as hot days[or cold nights[or a bush fire]..temp change is normal,...then we have the heat expansion of the sea carbon tax freaks..[ever notice how the seas cover the earth on hot days[lol]

we have the nutters saying/the islands flooding..[but thats because the islands are sinking,..not because the water is rising..[the whole north pole could melt..and it wouldnt change the water/level one mil..

then we got the nutters saying the south/pole is melting..[yeah the bit of it..sitting over a volcano is..[but thats not man-made/global warming..[sorry..CLI-mate change]..lol

we have rivers of ice making icebergs..[scince at least pre titanic]..yes..ice melts..[but having a polar-bear sitting on a chip of ice..[hunting]..is deceptive to say the least]..industry loves this gift of carbon/credit..[to them]..thus want the carbon tax..for us]

[they just love were talking about man made..[not big/businnes made]NON-carbon caused polutions..[not micro/particulate..causing cancers..[nor cell phone/radiation..,nor adverse-reaction to perscribed drugs,..the lies of 911,..or the wepons/of mass destraction..or even israel/palistein..[or the 40 million..made refugees last year alone

[and not their wholsale/polution of rivers..ground water etc..[or their murder of the forrests and eco systyems..anymore]..

not talking about the millions of other topics..now..not getting media attention..because of this..non debate..were not having..about their OTHER/non carbon polutions
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 18 June 2009 3:55:15 PM
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The thread deserves better.
We seem sometimes to get far away from reality in our debates.
While both sides of this debate, well the real world wide debate, slag off one another we must look at this deeply.
In my view we humans MUST limit our pollution of the planet, we are to blame for much if not all, of climate change.
We sadly let pure politics take control of issues like this ,blinding us to the truth.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 19 June 2009 5:19:53 AM
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i agree belly[we should tax all polutions, tax all waste...not just drag out a fictional blame that co2 causes all our problems...but face the truth that there are other causes of our problems

[everything from big businress going to cheap labour states that dont carte about big business poluting their waters/airs soils..[to making the elites pay their way..[and fix up the past damages they laid on both the workers and the environment..everything from asbestosis/plurisy,..to suporting those who died/injured at work

big business gets all the cream/advantage..[thus shouldnt get any govt subsidy]gets their worker educated and fixed up for free via the systemised welfare paid by the pay as you earn[and spend]..from the self same wage-slaves paying for everything else

let the abusers pay..[when a forrest is destroyed let it be mended by those who raped and plundered it..[no more acces to further resource till the clean up is done..[with no limeted liabuility companies..

[where the share holdres are held to account..for the damages done in their corperate fictions name..[where a labour party serves the poor not the elites]..where liberals are really liberal..not allowed to be neo con
Posted by one under god, Friday, 19 June 2009 8:31:26 AM
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Ho hum
Ive always secretly thought that with humans being the greedy, selfish lot they are nothing will happen until the damage and disruption are obvious to everyone. It seems we will have to wait till coastal suburbs disappear and droughts and floods cause mass starvation and dislocation. Sad but vested interests and propaganda seems to be winning out over knowledge and rationalism. As usual!
Posted by mikk, Friday, 19 June 2009 12:38:56 PM
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i think i have a sensable solution[make the paying of the tax volentary[those who volenetter get to wear a black star they can sew on thier clothing

[they will be given a free tatoo..[with their carbon tax file on their forhead..[they thus are emtitled to claim they saved the world..openly for the world to see

and us..without the barcode..will be known far and wide as hollow cost deniers[and you can round us up when you out-number us and put is in camps]...hey maybe chaser..could do a skit on that...but..no their gun-shy now..

.how about you carbon tax nutters just stop breathing..[oops that was meant to be breeding]...but try breathing half the time..[that way you lot will only be releasing half the co2 from your breath]

i think you lot arnt eating enough meat..[you would rather destroy the amason to grow soy..[irragate grazing land to grow rice in deserts]..or forrests in indonesia to grow palm-oil to run your highbred cars on

i guess you lot dont know how much methane your compost bins are sending into the sky..[a far worse polutant...nor care about that special cleaner to clean solar cells 1000 times more dangerous than carbon]..why cant you lot see this is about rebuilding industry via a new tax...a compulsory tax that the mark-eteers set the price for
Posted by one under god, Friday, 19 June 2009 4:00:17 PM
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