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Persian Panjandrum's Peril

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Iran:
Will we see a secular freedom movement appearing there, a counter-revolution?
Or will they achieve that most ephemeral of balances, between their religion and their membership of the 21st Century?
Perhaps a backlash from the extremists? A crack-down?
Interesting times in Ol’ Persia tonight indeed
Posted by Maximillion, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 10:11:29 AM
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I was interested in the news comment saying that there hasn't been a protest as large since the overthrow of the Shah.

Perhaps the re-election of that horrible little man is the begining of another revolt against another rotten government. Even the head Mullah has agreed to a recount of votes and an investigation into the 'election'.
Posted by Leigh, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 10:24:59 AM
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The protests you are witnessing in Tehran are completely manufactured by western intelligence agencies with ready made English signs(for western/ISRAELIE news agencies benefit) .
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/

Late last year,..Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran,..according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources...

These operations,for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars,..were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush,and are designed to destabilize the country’s religious leadership.
http://notsylvia.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/one-third-of-the-iranian-people/
“The Finding was focussed on undermining Iran’s nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change,”a person familiar with its contents said,and involved“working with opposition groups and passing money.”
Preparing the Battlefield,The New Yorker,July 7,2008
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh

The Ukrainian Orange phenomenon was modeled quite explicitly on the example of the Rose Revolution,..which featured a disputed election, massive youth-oriented street protests,and plenty of subsidies from U.S. government agencies.
The‘Color’Revolutions:/Fade to Black,Antiwar,September 29,2006
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=9768

The Pentagon and US intelligence have refined the art of such soft coups to a fine level...RAND planners call it‘swarming,’referring to the swarms of youth,..typically linked by SMS and web blogs,who can be mobilized on command to destabilize a target regime.
Color Revolutions,Geopolitics and the Baku Pipeline",Engdahl,
http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Geopolitics___Eurasia/Color_Revolutions/color_revolutions.html

Even before the count began,Mousavi declared himself..“definitely the winner”..based on.“all indications from all over Iran.”..He accused the government of.“manipulating the people’s vote”..to keep Ahmadinejad in power and suggested the reformist camp would stand up to challenge the results.

“It is our duty to defend people’s votes...There is no turning back,”..Mousavi said alleging widespread irregularities.
Iran declares win for Ahmadinejad in disputed vote,Associated Press,June 13,
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2009/June/middleeast_June355.xml&section=middleeast
what really happend
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/6/16/worldupdates/2009-06-15T194027Z_01_NOOTR_RTRMDNC_0_-403433-1&sec=Worldupdates
http://lataan.blogspot.com/2009/06/irans-post-election-protests-western.html
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/061509c.html
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/the-palestinian-struggle-whats-it-all-about/
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 12:00:19 PM
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OUG, do you have so little respect for the intelligence of the Iranians that you think an American plot could mobilise hundreds of thousands?
Give them a little credit, I feel it's genuine, the regime allowed education and communication, fatal for a totalitarian state.
Posted by Maximillion, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 4:58:44 PM
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yes its genuine[max]the rich kids dont like ajimmidad giving the oil wealth to the poor peons[they like all the spoilt rich kids in the world would perfer it was given to them..[like the 400 million busche and co gave them]

if things were as bad as the media makes it appear then why dont the bad guy use the tried and tested teqniques the west uses to shut down activists and protestors..[like corraling them..[like the system did recently..[or by shutting down the phone system like they did in sydney]..or block the web like china.

[the fact info is getting out[unlike info from burma/palistein]proves the media beat up is pure spin..[by the special ops from the mossad]...look at the images..[a car burning and 20 people not thousands]..shakey film of a building,..but not thousands...but believe as you chose..let the media tell you what to think.

try attending a real protest some time and realise this isnt a real protest but simply a media beatup[where was the reporting when the burma junta was genociding priests..[or israel was bombing gaza back to the stone age..[or where is the reporting on 40 million made homeless..this year alone..

aint it neat that pakistan/homeless dont rate a mention..[that palistein homeless dont rate a mention..[that the tamils in camps dont rate a mention..[or even the israelie settlements...see a media beat up when you see it...see israel with 400 nukes hates all goys..[thats the eliphant in the room]..timming is everything
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 5:20:44 PM
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OUG, sorry, all I did was ask for comment on the new situation in Iran, not the problems of the world. I distinctly recall seeing pictures of streets and plazas thronging with the odd few tens of thousands of people with signs saying "where's my vote", in various languages and scripts. A few years back such a display would've been unthinkable, and I was wondering where others thought it might lead, I have no firm idea myself, but am interested.
Posted by Maximillion, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 9:12:56 PM
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