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There is no left

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mikk
mikk
The problem is that we do not trust each other, that many of us prefer the easy way and they hand chairs and positions.
The bigest number of the lefts are in the ALP but most of them are position hunders, as we move more left we find people with ideas we can not realise or they have big probabilty to fail, as the communists or anarchists etc, the greens are not bad but I do not know their rules, how the party run.
I put my self between ALP and Greens I vote ALP for parliament and Greens for senate.
I AM AN ISOLATED MIGRANT!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 1:10:15 PM
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Antonios, if you place yourself somewhere between the Greens and the ALP, then you should be helping to restore the Democrats.
http://newdemocrats.org.au/
There are still some of us who believe we don't need a new party; we need an old one.
Posted by Grim, Thursday, 18 June 2009 7:34:52 AM
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Grim,
To be honest I am thinking for democrats! What realy I want is the very basic, the very essensial, respect to human rights, to democratic principless-values, common sense!
For every one there is a place in this world, in this country, every one should have rights and responsibilities.
There are some bad guys in this world, les't find why they became bad, what cause the problem?
Let's find the root of the problem, let's fight against the conditions which create the bad guys!
I FEEL SICK FOR HYPOCRITIES!, I FEEL SICK FOR HYPOCRITIES! I FEEL SICK FOR HYPOCRITIES! And there are so many hypocrities in this world, in this country!
I am trying to find a party where I could feel and behave as a human. All my life overseas I was with socialists, socialiademocrats (something like labours) I was working on the Unions but I left them I did not feel very good! I am an honest person.
In Australia I did not try ever for the labour, I think they are champions in hypocricy but always I voted them for the parliament.
I tried to Greens for one year but I found my self to disagree with them in few things as for the role of science and technology, I GIVE TOP PRIORITY TO SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, AND I SUPPORT THEM ON THE TOP DEGREE, GREENS DO NOT FEEL VERY GOOD WITH THEM, THEY ACT AS CONSERVATIVES !
PLEASE CONTACT ME AT
My email is asymeonakis@hotmail.com
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Saturday, 20 June 2009 12:19:48 PM
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It would be foolish and wrong to suggest who you should vote for.
There is no left
What you need to do is research the individual representatives and look for someone who attempts to follow what YOU think is correct.
My personal opinion is that there is little choice because the issues that I believe in are not followed by any party because as I have said there is no left. there is no peoples party.
Maybe it is time for the Australian Peoples Party (APP) it does not exist yet but maybe it is possible.
Posted by beefyboy, Saturday, 20 June 2009 9:39:55 PM
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Hey Antonios, thanks for your email, though I'm not sure why; I am not an official of the Democrats. If you wish to explore their policies, go here:
http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/our_action_plans/
Beefyboy may also be interested. I agree another alternative is required; the Laborals have moved so far to the right the Libs are almost redundant. The Greens tend to be a little one dimensional.
Although a member of the Democrats, I can't say with certainty they are the 'perfect' party, although I agree with the majority of their -existing- policies, and more importantly I think, I agree with their sentiments.
If you don't consider their policies to be perfect, now is still a good time to join, as they are obviously in a situation of necessary introspection and reform. More importantly, it is a firm plank in their platform to listen to the 'grass roots' members on matters of policy, and insist on, rather than disallow so called 'conscience voting'.
For more vigorous debates and discussions, try here:
http://newdemocrats.org.au/
Or, if you want to discuss policies of your own, you're welcome here:
http://avasay.com
Posted by Grim, Sunday, 21 June 2009 10:57:21 AM
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Grim
"now is still a good time to join, as they are obviously in a situation of necessary introspection and reform"
Grim You are smart! Even you can read my thoughts! You have right, now is the best time to join with democrats!.
ONLY ONE THINK I WANT FROM THEM: TO BE HONEST!
I will try to contact them!
thank you.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Sunday, 21 June 2009 3:56:18 PM
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