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No, because the Inn is full, until we build the annexe. Plus some of the guests are a little rowdy just now, perhaps you'd care to wait till they settle down?
Posted by Maximillion, Friday, 5 June 2009 6:02:36 PM
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“Sorry about the last post, it ended up on wrong thread but see you picked it up, good.”

I have done that twice today and you can’t edit or delete stuff aye. Seems to be several threads where the themes have been similar.

“That is why we hear very little from the Opposition in relation to immigration. Even the Greens, who have a low immigration policy, say nothing because the hypocrites rely on Labor preferences to get seats in the Senate.
So you see, there are many reasons we have a high immigration rate and none of those reasons relate to being beneficial to Australia.”

By Australia you mean the peoples but if more people came here they would become the peoples and they would find it beneficial. Oh I need one of those smilie faces with the big eyes and pursed lips.
I don’t think you ended up giving me a reason though just kind of told me why I haven’t heard it yet.

“Makes one relize how stupid we are!”

Oh I thought it was cause you were nice, I’m packing immediately!
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 5 June 2009 9:57:44 PM
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Jewely,
Please do not pack. I love foster mums as I think they do wonderful unselfish work. It must be hard to part with the kids. And we need you, with the baby bonus creating more kids there will be more and more mothers finding they are unable to cope. Having a baby may be a young womans dream, but I think many find the reality pretty tough in many circumstances.

Yes we are stupid. The only reason for us to take in more people is if we get some benefits from it. We won't reduce the worlds poverty by taking in a few more million people. All we are doing is lowering our own standard of living.

Yet we allow our politicians to get away with imposing a high immigration rate that only benefits a few developers and big business that sells more consumer goods. This causes the cost of housing to go up and we live further away from our work. It takes longer and costs more to get to and from work. Standing room only on transport. Even queues are longer everywhere and class sizes are larger with teachers spending less time with each kid.

I do not see any benefits from having a larger population. Unless one has a job that can only be done in a city, they can keep the city. In my closest town a lot of working people can still go home for lunch, which is unimaginable in a city, unless you live in the flat above your shop.

More people means more traffic, more trucks on the road, more red lights and speed cameras, more holiday conjestion, more accidents, more fights and knivings at night and more drunks making a nusiance of themselves. One thing there is less of and that is parking spaces.

Like the drover said; 'The more I see of people, the more I like my dog'

So unless we are gaining a lot, why bring more people here to lower our standard of living and dissrupt our lifestyle? That is stupid and unnecessary.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 5 June 2009 11:09:37 PM
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Banjo:”Please do not pack. I love foster mums as I think they do wonderful unselfish work. It must be hard to part with the kids. And we need you, with the baby bonus creating more kids there will be more and more mothers finding they are unable to cope. Having a baby may be a young womans dream, but I think many find the reality pretty tough in many circumstances.”

No way I would go back to NZ, when I commit, I commit. I chose Oz for my family and I have landed in such a sheetty neighbourhood but spend my days smiling. I have already had the privilege of loving several small Aussies, no going back now.

Banjo honey no one is asking you to reduce the worlds poverty. My hubby commutes over two hours to his work, no biggy. We overpaid for our house, is alright. My son stands on his two hour commute, he’ll deal with it. Education for my daughter was crap, she left, no blame no shame.

This larger population… is people, blood, thoughts, feelings, life. Fight more, live more.

You will gain more with a change in attitude.

No lowering but more a diving in to life. I am trying to edit thoughts and I know I am failing but people, people matter, all of the people from everywhere bring joy, sadness, anger, bitterness, and laughter, death, but life lots of life. An understanding of people and acceptance brings a quality of love of people that is amazing.

Right and wrong and where they come from brings children and cuddles and love.

Oh I went all soppy right there at the end. People are amazing. I don’t care whether a two year old came from poverty, another county, another race or religion they are amazing and worth all the hugs. All people were that two year old at some point.

Who cares about trucks.[smile] Banjo, let them come.
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 5 June 2009 11:40:33 PM
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Part One
Let's see with few words who prefers less migrants and who more IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD, NOT ONLY IN AUSTRALIA.
I must make clear from the begin, that every one who is against more migrants does not mean he/she is a racist!

A Less migrants
1. racists-nationalists, they want to keep their race, their nation "clean" from other races or nationalities. Clerics, military or police officers, language teachers, and any other profession which "guard" sides of the race-nationaly ID.
2. Unemployed people, unskiled people, people with housing problems prefer less migrants.
3. Conservative political parties prefer less migrants, because we know that migrants WORLDWIDE are more progresive, more left than the locals. For example in USA most migrants prefer Democrats, in Australia more Migrants prefer ALP than Liberals. The migrants turn the balance to left worldwide. But a strong part of conservatives and employer's associations prefer more migrants. For this reason conservative parties have two voices about migrants, as Howard's government. After the elections conservatives bring more and more migrants because it benefits corporations the backbone of conservatives BUT when we are close to the next elections conservative change retoric and speak against migrants or special groups of migrants as muslims, Blacks etc.
4. Trade Unionists. The mass majority of Unionists, from the bottom to the top, are against more migrants because as we bring more migrants the working conditions become worst, the ability of the unions to press employers weaken!
I saw and heard from many unionists in many countries to be against new migrants NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE RACISTS BUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE LESS POWER TO HANDLE WORKERS PROBLEMS. There is a small part of Unionists, Usual on the top Level, the educated one, the real left , the internationalists, the bleading hearts who are opened to more migrants. Of cause there are the migrants unionists who prefer more migrants to change balance of power in the union or party. Migrants have better contact with new migrants!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
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Posted by ASymeonakis, Saturday, 6 June 2009 1:23:20 AM
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Onya Jewely.

Compare and contrast:

Banjo: >>why bring more people here to lower our standard of living and dissrupt our lifestyle? That is stupid and unnecessary.<<

Jewely: >>This larger population… is people, blood, thoughts, feelings, life. Fight more, live more.<<

One anal-retentive, selfish, dog-in-the-manger, fearful, comfort-loving miser.

The other an outgoing, life-loving, adventurous, caring, generous example to all.

I'll leave it up to you to puzzle out which is which.

And which one you'd be both fortunate and honoured to have as a friend
Posted by Pericles, Saturday, 6 June 2009 1:23:55 AM
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