I've got a young nephew who was badly
attacked by 8 thugs on his way home from school,
when my nephew came to the defence of a young
girl the thugs were harrassing. The thugs beat
him senseless - and my nephew ended up in
hospital. There were people around at the time
of the beating - but no one came to my nephew's
aid.

Today, my nephew wears a steel plate in his head,
and has 'incoherent moments.' He will never be
the same again.

I would never stand by and let someone be
attacked, and not do anything about it.

But, that's not the issue here is it?

Leigh, raised the issue of 'racism,' with
the Indian students and what he called -
the 'Press Frenzy.' Well, newspaper headlines
are not often known for their wisdom - but they
certainly attract our attention - true judgement
is only developed by exposure to all sorts of facts,
or in the case of this Forum - to all sorts of
opinions (even ones we don't agree with Leigh).

I was hoping that you would raise the bar in
this discussion - minus any personal descriptors
like calling people's opinions - 'stupid,' et
cetera, or infering that they hate their country?
'What the?'

Let's try to keep our posts on a higher plain -
after all you're old enough to know better -
so set an example - it's your thread after all.

Let's try to find a solution to this perception -
that we're regarded as a 'racist,' country.
What are we going to do to change that image?
Or better still - realistically, what can we do?

Because no matter how we deny the fact - the
perception is out there that, that's how we
appear to be to others - including our own
newspapers.

This matter has to my mind, been, in some ways, caused by the change in the community in the present attitude, to the fear of intervening in any violence -physical or verbal.My generation of Australian young males was one where to those of us who were capable and confident, it was a duty to act in defense of those less capable of resisting an unprovoked attack.The thug of whatever nationality is most likely in company of his cowardly mates, and when confronted by an obviously confident defender is more likely to take to his heels with his pack instead of staying to fight.I would like to see more young lads trained in boxing as I was.The fact that the training was accompanied by the imbuing in the young man of a code of using his ability, only in defense of himself and his ideals.Those old blokes like me will remember there were those quiet fellows who we knew could "handle themselves in a 'blue'" and would not stand back and hesitate to confront aggressors.
There have always been a few mongrels in any community, but the knowledge that they are not going to be stopped from getting away with their attacks, seems to have emboldened them nowadays.

Jewely “Col:”That is very interesting but I am none the wiser to who you refer…”

You are being nasty again Col.”

I fail to see the “nastiness” in my comment… maybe you could explain how by me observing how your statement lacked pertinent definition is being “nasty”… unless you are going to suggest, that by highlighting your ignorance, I am being nasty… but that ignorance was already manifest before I wrote anything.

Maybe you just like the word… the sign of an underlying a “nastiness” fetish..

Like Ginx who thinks there is something “Clever’ in referring to me as “TB”.. a really obtuse and pointless comment, bereft of meaning to anyone but his/her self…

“I am a mess of cultures from Europe with some Jewish thrown in (well whatever race that is).”

We could well agree on the "Mess" bit at least

Back to the top “my experience with Islanders is any opportunity to attack needs no motivation”

So you need no motivation to attack islanders…

That might explain

“I have been part of a Samoan Family, Maori Family, Suadi Family, Jordainian Family, Italian Family, English Family.”

Does that mean you were progressively kicked out by them (an understandable circumstance following your attacks)?

Ah Ginx.. so you claim to be the new Mother Theresa (or maybe St Christopher) of the hard pressed traveler.. yet can present no evidentiary justification for your self-congratulatory proclamations …


YAWN ..... Well good for you…

I will wait for your listing in the new years honours before I applaud.

Yay Graham!

But anyway...Col you aren’t making any sense, those particular islanders (although I am the only one required to define the word) used to attack, bully and stand over children on their way to primary school, I was defending children. I don’t regret it and I would do it again. The race didn’t matter but it was Sa’s mostly.

“We could well agree on the "Mess" bit at least”

See that’s nasty. You want me to explain why you are nasty or my use of that word? It was just the easiest one to spell although I could probably come up with some flasher ones if ya want. I’d rather know why you bother with all the insults and what is to be gained from them. Oh actually I insulted you in that other thread so maybe it was pay back.

I don’t know what TB means.

But back to the topic; Islanders (which are normally what I am used to Samoans being called although I don’t know if DNA testing has been done in this matter) are in general big boys (oh god were the attackers male?).

Indian boys (males again I am guessing in this case?) are smaller in stature usually. This may go back to Fractelle’s theory on bullying having more to do with most meanness than what race/gender/etc the perpetrator or victim.

Or the Indian boys were stepping on another’s turf to sell drugs. Has any of it been made clear? This could have been a retailer’s conference. Could have been Bloods and Crypts; good old fashioned red vs blue in action again. One of their little brothers might have bitten the other one at nursery school.

I think you already pointed out there was no proof of this being a racially motivated attack? And of course your media made it Racial – they always do if it isn’t actually a white Aussie doing the attacking.

See the drunk Tongan get beaten up by Aussie cops?

You misunderstand, Leigh. I admire that you're OLO's only open and enthusiastic racist. I especially appreciate that you dress your race-hate in peripheral arguments so shallow and transparent that they can only be back-handed jibes at the traitors who've allowed this proud white man's nation to be overrun with those confusing, suspect brown people - even the ones who pretend not to be Muslim

And you don't hate an Indian doctor for misdiagnosing you? How tolerant. How lovely. But why did you mentioned it all, unless you mean that he misdiagnosed you on purpose because he's Indian? Or do you mean you forgive him in spite of his crime of being Indian? No doubt he caused your illness in the first place, too. Ooh, those foreigners are capable of anything, aren't they?

Please tell us how much you love your country, because day in, day out, all you do is spit venom at people who don't agree with you, which is the majority of Australians. So what you really mean is that you love the few members of your race who share your fear of the unfamiliar and happen to live in Australia. A bit of a weak claim to patriotism, no?

But since a capacity for self-serving patriotic masturbation is so important to you, I challenge you to go through my post history and find a single instance which even resembles an anti-Australian sentiment. Even if you can misrepresent me sufficiently to meet the challenge, I still won't hate your kind just because a white doctor once misdiagnosed me.

See, I AM a good person.

Hey, go easy on Indian quacks, I went in to see one about a fall, and he spotted two malignant skin-cancers I hadn't thought serious, pus found other early ones, I reckon I probably owe him my life.
As for all the bashings, bah, it's a media beat-up, there's bashings every day across Oz, yet the media are just picking up on those involving Indians, and exaggerating the circumstances.
Next month it'll be something else, anything for a headline.