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Indian Students and Press Frenzy

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Foxy,
While it was brave of you to take that action, it could have ended quite badly. Just this week a young fellow was murdered by a group after he interviened when they were bashing an individual.

I do not know what the answer is, but in many cases if you do not have the resourses to command compliance then it is best you do not interviene. Some thugs have absolutely no respect for anyone or anything, except superior force.

As for the Indian students demo. The cry of 'racism' has long been a great attention getter. It has been used many times on OLO to put an opponant on the defensive and to stop valid argument. Thankfully its influence is waning, like the boy who cried 'wolf' to often.

One must ask what is the basis of the students claim of racism.

Is it only Indians that are being bashed and/or is the bashings carried out by certain ethnic groups? It appears that the police do not think the bashings are motivated by racism. But bear in mind that the Vic police seem reluctant to mention the ethnicity of any suspected criminal.

Recantly there was a ctc video released of a person getting bashed in an underpass at a melbourne railway, by two black youths. It would be stupid to claim it was a racist attack. Although it may well be.

Until such time as it can be shown that there is genuine basis for the students claims, then the cry of racism should be treated cautiously.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 10:37:48 AM
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>>I can't remember who said it but it goes
something like this, "Bad things happen when
good people do nothing," or words to that effect.
But you get the message.<<

Foxy,

I understand the message, and it is true so long as you have the power to achieve it, but I bet the person who coined it was a long way from a worst-case situation at the time.

I've done my good deed too. I stood up to an overly aggressive bus driver who took off quickly from my bus stop and did a fast 90 degree turn in the one motion (so that he could beat the traffic) and threw people around in the aisle who hadn't a chance to find a seat. When he responded with the "don't talk to me like that on MY bus" card, I reported him.

kulu, I agree that fear and apathy are both contributors to the problem: fear paralyses and societal apathy is the result.
Posted by RobP, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 10:41:31 AM
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Thanks, Col. You more than make up for the stupid comments of Sancho, Foxy,and examinator.

Yes, Stg. Statistics come a poor second to hysteria. As I said, a very few unfortunate Indian students out of 80,000 are assaulted by 'islanders', and ratbags like Sancho, examinator and Foxy start flinging rubish like 'racist' and Ku Kux Klan around.

If these clowns hate their country so much that they jump on every chance to put it down, they are very sick people indeed. They don't even want to know that rational Indians living in Australia have come to the defence of our country by denying any 'racism' against them or their countrymen.

There is a growing fifth column in Australia which is certainly more dangerous and despicable than the Indian students who these creeps are using to white-ant our society while pretending to be good and compassionate
Posted by Leigh, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 10:55:28 AM
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Sancho “The profound absurdity of this thread is still sinking in.”

That is because the profoundly stupid and myopic find it more difficult to comprehend the nuances of the thread.

StG “Have the Police commented on the statistics regarding disproportionate bashings on Indian students?.

I'm kinda asking if the students have a valid complaint...”

According to Chief Commissioner of Police, the attacks are “opportunistic” and not “racially” motivated.

Of course if we are talking about violent attacks, we might consider the attacks on Indian students in the light of the attack on Luke Mitchell and the asian perpetrators, two of whom fled to Thailand.

It seems to me pure and dumb hysteria for anyone to claim an opportunistic attack on an Indian as “racist” –

Whilst seemingly ignoring the “racist” aspects in the murder of Luke Mitchell.

Or maybe some believe “Racism” is something limited to “Whites” -

In which case, I suggest we all cast our minds back to the 1970s when thousands of Asians were being dispossessed and forced into exile from newly independent African states and the perilous situation which hovers over the government of Fiji today.

And if that is not enough… just cast your mind (tough for some, those "hysterics" who seem to be lacking a full pack of cards) back further and check how many died during the partition of India in 1947

where according to Wikipedia…”The partition displaced up to 12.5 million people in the former British Indian Empire with estimates of loss of life varying from several hundred thousand to a million”.

Indian against Indian

Or the occassional mass murders by one group or another

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence_in_India

And now we hear a hue and cry over an opportunistic and random attack …

Sounds like hysteria …looks like hysteria and it is just hysteria

Leigh.. I wrote the above an hour or so ago but I got caught with one of OLO’s “Server Error” messages and a meeting.... thanks for your later comment…
From which the we both seem to be quoting from the “book of reason”, to counter the ravings of hysteria.
Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:34:07 AM
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Col:”It seems to me pure and dumb hysteria for anyone to claim an opportunistic attack on an Indian as “racist””

Horrible situation and still I can’t help smiling; my experience with Islanders is any opportunity to attack needs no motivation. They are one of the most un-racist races on earth in this regard. If there is no one around from another race they will beat the crap out of each other.

On another tangent, sorry but can’t stop. I just read about all the little British boys Australia imported in the 1940’s to boost the white immigrant numbers then proceeded to treat them quite badly in institutions. Made me think that really those White Aussies would be quite resentful of white Australia in general and where do they put that?
Posted by Jewely, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:51:35 AM
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Foxy: “Or do we carry baseball bats with us wherever we go?

Cricket wicket with nails poking out all over it… This is what I used to carry when I was a young mum and walked my children and the neighbors children to school through a state housing suburb.

Was a great deterrent for all the stray dogs and random islanders.

Not to say some weren’t lovely and friendly; they would get a scratch behind the ears.
Posted by Jewely, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 12:00:04 PM
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