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The monster rears it`s ugly head once again,...the subject of an ageing population and the right for the elderly or the permanently incapacitated to have access to the Voluntary Euthanasia "Pill"

Anyone who watched the "Four Corners" programme last night should be extremely concerned at the horror portrayed under the guise of care and treatment ( or lack of it ) being administered to residents at some of the Aged Residential Homes/Institutions across the country, amplifying a situation that has been perpetuated and tolerated for far too long!

I will jump up on the rostrum and state emphatically that all of the ignorant, thoughtless, self-centred do gooders, religious cranks and the like who decry and deny this the right of every individual to a clean, decent and painless departure from existence, should hang their collective heads in shame at the current tragic and deadly circumstance that many of our aged and feeble citizens find themselves in, through no fault of their own!....You people are unbelievable, you accuse your neighbour of cruelty if he doesn`t feed his dog, you are quite happy happy to see a racehorse with a broken leg euthanased on the racetrack, yet at the same time you are prepared to condemn your own flesh and blood to a rapidly diminishing life of pain and degradation in the confines of an institution, removed and hidden away from your own selfish little comfort zone!

Successive governments have indicated increasing concern regarding the ageing population, yet none has had the decency to accept that "ageing" is a terminal disease for which their is no cure. We must therefor allow each individual the right to have access to the departure "pill" allowing these individuals the comfort in the knowledge that should things get too bad there is always a clean final solution accessible at the appropriate time!

Remember!....We all grow old and infirm and we should ALL think carefully about how we ourselves woud like to be treated when it is our turn to be cast off!
Posted by Crackcup, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 11:05:32 AM
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oh crackup [your cracking me up]dopnt you know they are allready doing this[havnt you heard of passed away peacfully..[read the death notices]..its code for died..drugged to their gills by a shot from the night shift.

mate we see plenty of people living effectivly in old age..[just as we see many workers dying pre retirment],..the difference is its the elites who dont die and the workers who do..

[mate only 22 out of every 100 aborigonal males gets to live past the age of 65[33/100 for ab/women]...allowing your death pill..[mate who you think is going to have been said to take it?

we should legalise suicide?

will those proposing the sceme..take the pill..to prove it has worth?

take it now bro...
you sure got no clue of whats happening as we speak

mate our diet is making us sick..[many of you are on phycotic meds[half the population is certifyably insane,..this wonder pill of yours
mate..if your not going to take it go away..[if you are going to take it go see a phycia-tryst]...

clearly under the guize of compassion many docters will advize a certain..[cretan's]..to take the pill..because they been paid to market the pill to get a free holyday..or have manitorilly perscibed it..by mistake...

you want to off yourself..mate im fine with that..[you want to off others..,your a nutter..however cleverly you hide it..your intention is clear...

others take it..certainly not you...

we know the rich will get sent to a phyc..the poor will take the pill
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 11:34:00 AM
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In many cases we have an ‘ageing population’ only because people are kept alive by medical experimenters when the poor old buggers should either be let die or, in the right instances, helped to die quickly, painlessly and with dignity.

I’m sure that euthanasia is practised in many cases – whether it is a hand over the nose and mouth of new-born babies who clearly don’t have a hope of a decent life, or a doctor’s suggestion that a family member be given ‘as much morphine as required’ when he or she goes home to die.

But, if we really lived in the caring society that we are told we do, euthanasia would not be the political football it is. It would be available to all who wanted it.

Until we are allowed the right to die, we can only support people like Phillip Nitschke, and hope that the right-to-life maniacs see some of their own die in misery and agony to bring them to their senses.
Posted by Leigh, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 12:09:29 PM
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Agreed Crackcup/Leigh.
Posted by Ginx, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 6:12:07 PM
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The Right to die, not suffer a lingering death:

I have an idea, lets test it on our animals first. Stop exporting them alive and letting them suffer.

If that all works we can do it for humans.

We can even put a label on the pill bottle!

“Fully Tested on Animals!”
Posted by Jewely, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 7:00:34 PM
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Leigh,
it had to happen soon or later I agree with you.

Crackup
I'm not sure the attack was appropriate/helpful but the point is ok with me.
It should be up to the individual.
Might I also add to the 4 cnrs program. I have my reservations with allowing families any say if there is a clear wish expressed.
i.e. I have donated my carcass (when I'm finished with it) to the apprentice surgeon's school. Apparently they want bodies with pathologies. ( at current rates they'll open me up to find an IOU or 'oops too late')

But the problem is my wife is currently opposed to me not dispatched without the usual charade of a cemetery fair well...the act of closure. she has issues with the service being delayed for up to 2 years then the uni give a group remembrance ceremony.
Likewise she has concerns with my possible early expiration in that I have set down a DNR etc.(I doubt that I could rely on her to give me the pill or potion if it existed) ;-).
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 4 June 2009 8:04:16 PM
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I have read with interest some of the comments here and I absolutely agree with legalizing euthanasia. It is a right every human being should have; to end their life of misery and pain with dignity and not have their family charged with breaking the law if they help them.

I had a beloved cat euthanized, it was so quick and painless she did not know. We love our pets enough to put them out of their pain.

Why not me or you or anyone who wants to end the misery? I will not live a life of degradation and dependence and I will not have people tell me I should. I fear being immobilised after a stroke and not being able to do this for myself. But I will find a way.

While all the do-gooders are wringing their hands, they are also complaining about the health care beds being taken up by elderly patients. You can't have it both ways. You can't keep people alive by any means then say they are a burden on society. Get real!! When is a government in this country going to get the guts to legalize euthanasia? I hope in my lifetime.
Posted by RaeBee, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 5:43:46 PM
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PS. You don't stay young and healthy forever, you might think you will but you don't. There are two things in life that cannot be altered; death and taxes.
Posted by RaeBee, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 6:00:15 PM
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it is OUR right..[not the right of others]...i hesitate to breath any breath into the monster [you raised its ugly head]...because you favour it as a normalised method of dispatch

here is the deal[mind control]..via our media..infuencing the weakminded they arte DOOMED...there is no help for you..[your going to die a painfull lonly death...but brother there is hope...lol...take this pill and go lie down somewhere...its painless

[so tell me how you know its painless...from those dying?...have they come back and said it didnt hurt a bit?, just because that dog appeared to die[how you know its spirit isnt trapped in it's dead corpse...suffereing unspeakable things after you burried it

spiritually our spirit must stay with our bodies...till disolution of it's flesh...your playing with stuff you cant concieve,...go read about coma patients...

or maybe better those patients opperated on that wernt under the knockout drops..[according to the anestetist they were...lol..BUT...they YET were able to recall fully every thing said in the operating theater...wouldnt that be hell

well thats what your playing with budd...you just dont know it...yeah YOU didnt feel a thing..[that dog looked dead..[but was it?...will you take the risk...you ever go back and check the dog REALLY died?..or just went into a coma nightmare
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 5:53:08 AM
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RaeBee:

I thank you for your enthustastic support for this subject of Voluntary Euthanasia.

Unfortunately the detractors, most of whom will profess to be true Christians, will continue to refuse and decry any act of humanity until of course they find themselves in the situation of needing an exit strategy, which by then will most probably be too late for them, however we should not have this right taken away from us by this selfish and thoughtless group of recalcitrents!

Yes! the Government should pass a Bill allowing self-administered Voluntary Euthanasia, but unfortunately we have a gutless government
who pander to the medical professionals who simply treat the symptoms rather than administering a cure for the ailments, ....it is simply business as usual and we are NOT allowed to die prematurely whilst there is the chance of them extracting or bleeding another dollar from us the unfortunate victims of greed and avarice!

I would be interested to hear from just one medical "expert" as to what they perceive as any ill effect in the direct administration of an injection of "Green Dream" or Nembutal to a terminally ill patient requiring a peacefull exit?

The argument that if Voluntary Euthanasia was available to all, then everybody would be "doing it" is absolute rubbish. "Green Dream" was available from Veterinarians for lethal injection to sick animals a few years ago, and there was no noticeable record of deliberate human death by, or misuse of this simple drug, so what is the big deal?
Posted by Crackcup, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 8:57:32 AM
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Nembutal used to be a legally prescribed drug in Australia. It was used as a sleeping pill. I must point out there were not overwhelming numbers of people euthanising themselves. Why? Because people were allowed to die and not resuscitated to live a life of pain and misery. Then the do gooder, god botherers started their 'life at any price' routines and now we are faced with a health system full of frail and ill old people who would rather have passed on but now have no chance to change the situation. Doctors prescibe medication after medication to keep people living.

I take absolutely no notice of the religious types. They have nothing worthwhile to say and I find them foolish and ill informed.

My family and myself are intelligent and well informed and know what has to be done if the situation arises, I just don't want a family member facing ridiculous charges if they unscrew the cap on the bottle. That's just ludicrous; the law has to be changed. I don't want to have to go to South America to die either.

Right to Life at any cost? What utter nonsence. Some babies born today are kept alive but these children have no quality of life and indeed would have died at birth in days gone by. What is this world coming to? To condeme a little child to that sort of life.
Posted by RaeBee, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 10:33:35 AM
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