Foxy,

You confuse 'multicultural' with 'multiracial'. The two are different,politically and acutually. We have a multiracial society simply because we have a non-discrimanatory immigration policy. We have had a multicultural POLICY forced on us by politicians without discussion.

examinator,

"Leigh
Me thinks you protesteth too much."

I don't think you have wording quite right, but your comment proves what I said in my first post: that, no matter what, some people will assume my 'racism' no matter what I say. Your Clayton's accusation will also make no difference to my opinions. My opinion of you is that you are a person who thinks name calling makes everyone back off. Not in my case, sunshine. You would be much better off working out your own thoughts - e.g. experience and culture are the same? It is possible to change our genetic make up?

People who make decisions in Australia (politicians) have the same weakness of character and lack of self esteem as you do. And that is what makes Australia a laughing stock to the rest of the world - they think that they can say what they like about us and get away with it.

Other cultures knoe that many Australian get up tight if they are called 'racists', and they use this failing to win arguments and get their own way. The Chinese are masters at using other cultures' weaknesses to get what they want. I know you will say that the last sentence constitutes what you call racism, so you needn't bother to tell me directly.

No worries Fr', I can agree to differ, but only about the hard-wiring aspect, as I said, education, I'm a great supporter, and we look to that to help us achieve greatness if we can, and I live in hope.
I don't hold any negative views about anyone in particular, just individuals, so I at least have un-done the wiring, as nearly anyone can.

PART ONE
Col Rouge
I am not an economic migrant, overseas my salary was about same from my ex sister's salary , a doctor specialist with studies in Athens and London and beter from my ex brother's salary, a qualified account.
I migrated to Australia for various reasons, one of the from stupid promises and lies from my relatives in Australia.
When I came in Australia and I saw the reality I had to decide back or hard difficult work.
I am not from the persons who return back. In the first weeks I paid the deposit from the money I brought from overseas and I bought three units on a big corner block. I paid the mortage from the the rent and of the two units and lived in the other unit.
My ex wife was not ready for hard times, she prefered the easy way, no worries.
When, I applied for devorce we had the three units and an other house. For 6 years in Australia and under bad working and family conditions this was not very bad.
The day I was in the family court for the devorce, my ex wife colapsed mentaly. This was a Disaster for me. I did not know what to do I try to give the best solution for her as her condtions will have effects on my children.
I took her in my home but in her conditions she was dangerous for my children and her self. after some time I decided to imform her relatives overseas about the problem. It was better for her to return back to her relatives. her brother came to take her but she did not go withouht the children. I left my children to go with her, their grandfathers are good persons and I promised my children that any time they will need me I will be there.
When later my daugter said me "dad we need you"
I sold my properties and I went there.

Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
CONTINUE

PART TWO
Col Rouge
Few years later I returned back, it was Friday and on next monday I started work in my old workplace, 2-3 months later I brought my children in Australia.
Now everthing was different, and much more difficult for me. I gave TOP priority to my children, I did not marry because I did not like to put higher press on my children. Two of my three children finished university, with awards, one of the two continue post studies.
As my children grow up I started to prepare for my self. I opened a computer shop but the sales was not enouph, I moved in a Market with three days per week, the market is in big decline and now I go ONLY in a Sunday market PLUS OF CAUSE I AM WORKING FULL TIME.
Instead of computer products now I put more mobile products, (chargers, wall, usb, car , batteries, cases plus computer staff etc)
The financial crisis minimized the overtime in my workplace and the sales in the markets are very low.
All this things have nothing to do with the fight for migrants rights.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Max, spot on I agree with your principal. I simply don't like it as an argument (mitigation...in the minds of some...an excuse to put in no effort). I'm not giving up on the human species quite yet.

Leigh,
Oh dear, The point I made to you was that the topic WASN'T about you. it was devoid of specifics. The fact that you personalized it says more about you than the topic (PS the bent quote was from Shakespeare)and appeared apt. Your justification was both moot/irrelevant and potentially indicative of defensiveness.

That doesn't mean that I think some of you other points were necessarily wrong but are standard for some one who needs to believe in identification with a nation and therefore believes in national pride.

I thought that previous post would have made it clear that I view Nationalism with some skepticism. Hence my oft quote "patriotism is the last resort of a scoundrel". Therefore your statement that I suffer from cultural cringe is at best moot. A bit like saying that I'm embarrassed by the Pope's utterances...As a humanist I couldn't give a Bullocky's damn (Aussie enough?)for either. I would fight to save lives but to up hold national pride give me a break.
Neither does it mean I am disparaging of those who do.

Next "the culture= experience", My adopted dad suffered for the remainder of his life after being freed from the Burma railway after WW2. To say that was cultural effect is an extra ordinary stretch. He said the worst guards were Korean not Jap. My son is dating a genetic Korean adopted at birth and raised in Aust. My eldest is a Jew and my youngest is dating Ethiopian raised in Jamaica. And the eldest son is dating a Aussie Bogan go figure?

As a matter of fact My last para was not a specific attack on anyone particular least of all you.

ASymeonakis PART ONE and PART TWO

I am really unsure why you made these posts.

All you actually contribute is in your final comment

“All this things have nothing to do with the fight for migrants rights.”

Imho “migrant rights” are no different to citizen rights, except the right to participate in the election of political representatives.

And I express that view not only as an Australian Citizen but also as an Australian immigrant.

If you came to Australia to build some outpost of your motherland, then I wish you every failure.

I came here to assimilate and participate into Australia, not pretend some fealty to some distant image of “home”.

My home is where I live…

I suggest you consider your options because

If “somewhere else” is "home" or means more to you than Australia does…

Why, on earth, are you wasting your time here, when you could be living and (presumably) enjoying life there?