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Are Aussies - narrow minded, prejudiced and intolerant?

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PART FOUR FROM MANY PARTS.
One other time I saw a german background supervisor crying, I asked her why was crying and she said me that the managment humiliated her, she never returned back to her job, later I lerned that she changed very much, that she become strange!
I was surprised when a qualified printer from Italian background that he resigned few weeks later after his honeymoon, (married) I asked him why he resigned and he said me that he was angry with the managment and after I learned he was working as floor cleaner.
One time when I went to my work, then afternoon sift, I found an Italian background new printer assist to try to put varnish but as he did not that we had funnel for it, he used paper but it bend and the varnish spread every where, few metyres farther was the printer lauphing. I went strait to product manager and immediatly he put the new assist in other machine.
In other post I wrote that a printer did not allow me to have lunch for two weeks and when the supervisor asked him why he answered that he had not lunch too, probably he thought that I was his personal slave, I have even a worst case when I was sick with certificate from doctor and when an other assist came to replace me, then I did not have lunch too.
One Friday, I was working afternoon sift in one machine and continue in this machine for the night sift with an other printer, (I worked many times two sifts continously) this afternooon we lost our time on color match (I was wishing all time and ink man made new inks) close to end of the sift the printer said me to put the ink we rejected at begin. I aked him why we lost all our night if the first ink was OK. He answered to me that he wanted to leave the job for the other printer, who cwill continue after him. I was worried because
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
CONTINUE
Posted by ASymeonakis, Friday, 29 May 2009 12:49:18 PM
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I am sorry you have these memories Antonios.

Hopefully it was understood by management one day how shameful it was to treat others like this.

And if not, I wish them a knee in the crotch by a carpet layer.
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 29 May 2009 6:41:47 PM
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Dear Antonios,

You've certainly posted quite a few words on
your employment problems.

I think most of us on this Forum would
share my concern for the situations you
describe.

I presume that you are not able to leave the job,
otherwise you would have done so.

You really don't need all this stress - it's
not good for your health.

I do have two questions.

How long have you been in Australia?

How long have you been in your current job?
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 29 May 2009 8:20:07 PM
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Foxy
Like I said you are right. My SUGGESTED perspective was to drill down deeper in to the causes of prejudices otherwise your list prejudices would be virtually never ending .
The only way I can make sense of it is to look for commonality of cause (of prejudices).
Evidence is quite clear in that most prejudice is fear based.
As I also pointed out several examples of how although fear is built into DNA part of the flight or fight defences the actual causes are generally learned.
That comes about largely by experiences and culture.
There are cultures that don't teach fear of different cultures this in turn leads us to the reasonable conclusion that change (adapt) the culture and much of the fears dissipate along with the prejudices.
By this reasoning the once impossible task is at least within the realms of possibility.
I note that even on Q&A they all referred to racial prejudice as being fear based.
As evidence of this I refer to the doco the other night which traced the origins of current prejudices towards Arabic people and Islam back to conditioning due to their stereotypical depiction in the movies.
A question posed was would we be happy to accept the same evil two dimension depiction of say women, Jews and afro Americans. The clear answer is no.
Consider the decades long campaigns in Aus 'red under the bed ' and the 'yellow hoards' both were used to justify our involvement in a war.....Vietnam and their twin Iraq.
Fear is clearly an excellent motivator/ source of manipulation.

Leigh
The comment “me thinks …...” was explained
I assumed your extended offense seemed to be in answer to the last line of the above comment. If not then your logic escapes me totally.
Sometimes it's difficult to work out who reads what and what their comment refer to.
Posted by examinator, Friday, 29 May 2009 11:09:50 PM
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Examinator

Your last post expresses my understanding of the fundamental reason for prejudice. So I don't have much to add really, except to say that humans are malleable, therefore I have hope that we (all humans) can learn to get along with each other. Also that Aussies are more tolerant than some cultures and less tolerant than others.

Antonios

Your experience at work, sounds very similar to what happened to me - I would, therefore, suggest that your situation is a form of bullying. You don't have to be a migrant to be bullied - you just have to be considered a target by a bully. Only you can decide for yourself what action to take, but if you cannot change the environment in which you work to something that is not so toxic, please consider changing jobs. I know this is not easy, but your long term health is at stake.

Regards
Posted by Fractelle, Saturday, 30 May 2009 10:12:29 AM
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Exam', you claim that fear is the root of xenophobia.
Care to explain that?
Looks like plain semantics to me, surely one could as easily say that the fear is a reaction caused by the phobia?
Also, you claim that it's culturally learnt, so, care to tell me which culture has no 'phobia?
There is a trend nowadays to assign PC causes to things, and tout that as gospel truth, with little other than semantic or statistical evidence.
I find this a fallacy, and it stifles true debate and investigation/exploration of ourselves.
Xenophobia is a trait exhibited by virtually all animals that live in groups, oh, but that's right, humans aren't animals, their above them, higher-beings, god-copies, therefore our reactions and instincts can't possibly be the same/similar, can they?
See what I mean? Semantics, and hubris.
Posted by Maximillion, Saturday, 30 May 2009 11:00:34 AM
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