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Was the Holocaust a pan-European project?

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Foxy asks:

"Was Hitler more evil than Stalin? Or was Stalin more evil than Hitler?"

I could not even begin to answer that question. What measure would you use?

I think I'd give Stalin the edge but it's subjective.

To my mind Mao trumps them both by a short margin.

Foxy writes:

"You're guaranteed to see lots of special about Hitler and the Nazis, but rarely can you watch anything critical of communism's evils."

I agree.

But what's the point in directing your criticism at me?

I suggest you ask the loathsome Lefties who infest academe and the media why they focus on Hitler and National Socialism while minimising the atrocities of Stalin, Mao and Communism.

For that matter ask anyone you see wearing a T-short bearing the likeness of Castro's executioner, Che.

We're on the same side on this one Foxy.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 24 May 2009 5:43:48 PM
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Dear Steven,

I was not directing my criticism at you - at least
it wasn't intentional. I was merely expressing a
general frustration. Is all. Because there's
so many attacks from Jews on Lithuanians and your
Spiegel article was just the final straw.

You said that you were only stating facts - however
how would you feel if I stated facts to you about
Jewish atrocities in Lithuania in just as descriptive
a manner as the Spiegel article that you presented on
this Forum. Would that clear anything up? Would it
heal all the old wounds?

We have to admit that atrocities took place - to recognise
a historic burden is not the same as accepting collective
guilt. No honest person would argue that Lithuanians are
a nation of criminals, or that all Jews were communists
and members of the NKVD (later KGB) in Lithuania. Or that
today's Lithuanians/and or Jews are responsible for what
happened during those tragic years. Anymore than contemporary
Americans are responsible for slavery.

But the legacies of such crimes, the historical burdens
remain. Attempts to evade, deny, minimize or misrepresent
historical offenses are unsuccessful in the long term.

The most awful and relevant aspect of this sad history is
that - "Some Lithuanians and Jews assisted in the murder and
deportation of other Lithuanians and Jews."

To acknowledge this is to accept the burden of that tragic
history.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 24 May 2009 6:34:05 PM
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